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<0> I'm so tired of the self absorbed narcissistic so called libertarians who dominate the US. <0> Look, here's the reality. <1> dominate? <1> hahahaha <1> yeah, we're all over those red states <0> You are. <1> holy out of touch with reality batman <1> that's why we have an agnostic in office <1> oh wait <1> nope <0> Holy ignorant, secular liberal. <0> Exactly how original do you think you are <2> batwoman is a lesbian <0> 95% of the audience of most major networks and cable channels thinks exactly the same about the world that you do, khan. <3> rdragon: that's hot <2> yea ;)
<1> heh, that's a bush-level statement, JBlitzen <1> you're clearly delusional <0> Right, everything I say is about Bush or caused by Bush. <0> No fearmongering there, no. <1> no, i was comparing your idiotic statement to something bush would say <0> It's like the salem republican trials. <1> as you say it in the same style <0> Oh, has Bush ever said anything like what I just said? <0> Let's check. <1> except you spoke english <0> Nope! <2> so, if JBlitzen weighs the same as a duck... <0> But I guess if you only hear about him third hand from your controllers at CBS, you'd think otherwise. <0> But hey, congratulations, at least you can feel like you have original thoughts. <0> And if everyone has the same thoughts and agrees with you, that must be a sign that they're not coming from external sources. <0> That would just be silly! <1> you really are crazy <0> Of course. <0> To a crazy person, the world is crazy. <1> if us secular liberals ruled the country, you'd be locked up <0> Except, I'm not the one who thinks the world's crazy, am I. <0> You are. <1> no <1> i think the world's the world <0> You think the middle east is crazy, you think the government's crazy, you think anyone who opposes you is crazy <1> you're the one seeing conspiracies <0> I don't have to see conspiracies. <0> In fact, I never said there was a conspiracy. <0> When you see a duck on a pond, you don't have to think there's a conspiracy to acknowledge it. <0> You just acknowledge it. <0> That's called "sane". <2> it's a witch <3> how do you know your eyes are not fooling you? <0> Fine, touch it. <0> Investigate it. <0> Scrutinize it. <0> Molest it, if you're khan. <3> same problem with all 5 senses <0> I'm all for scrutinizing your beliefs. <2> witches are hot, too <1> so then religion is out? <0> These CBS trusting Jon Stewart enjoying idiots aren't. <0> They don't scrutinize anything. <3> rdragon: if you don't mind the mole on their nose <2> I don't ! <0> They just live comfortable in the knowledge that their claims won't be challenged. <3> bet you like licking it during *** don't ya <3> hrm. I'm making myself cringe <0> khan, you're as religious as they come. <4> JBlitzen: Here's some scrutiny. How about we question the purpose for the war and whether it's reasonable? <0> You have beliefs about spirituality that you hold to with 100% conviction. <0> You try to spread those beliefs. <1> no <0> You castigate people who don't follow them. <1> i don't have "beliefs" <0> Of course you do. <0> Oh, I see. <0> Because you call them facts, they're not beliefs. <1> i have lack of evidence for any supernatural phenomenom <0> But hey, it must be a fact, because CBS told you it is. <3> this is boring. I'm out to smoke
<1> i don't even watch CBS you wacko <1> that's for old people <0> jb2, I've questioned that and I've always turned up with an answer I was absolutely pleased with. <0> CBS is just a stand-in for whatever it is you do watch, read, or listen to. <4> peterhu: About as much as you lack evidence for leprechauns, or a Smurf conspirancy. <0> Be it the hippies on slashdot or Jon Stewart or the homo on HBO or whoever. <1> jbatista: except believing in those would be insane <1> not so for christianity <1> or islam <1> or judism <1> you can believe in that mythology as fact and it's sacred <1> you can't ridicule it <1> you can't attack it <1> that would be horrible <0> See, jb2, it is as much a religious ***ertion to claim that any higher entity does not exist as it is to claim that one does. <0> IF you accept that such claims necessarily can't be proven. <1> except i have never and will never make that claim <1> i'm agnostic <1> go look it up <1> i'll wait <4> JBlitzen: Who stated that God doesn't exist? <0> Apparently not very agnostic <0> An agnostic wouldn't say that Christianity is insane <1> to believe in something as fact that has no possible proof? that's insane <1> it's as sane as believing in smurfs <4> JBlitzen: What about a Smurf conspiracy? <1> i can't prove that smurfs exist <0> It has no possible disproof either. <1> but i read a book that told me about them <1> why is that insane to most people? <0> You're not agnostic. <0> Agnostics don't call non-agnostics insane. <4> peterhu: It's because there's no Church of Papa Smurf. <1> JBlitzen: not true <1> agnostics say they don't know the answer <1> they don't pretend to respect those idiots that know the answers <1> and considering there are a lot of people with conflicting answers, someone's going to be pissed off in the after life =( <0> I still can't quite pin down what your problem is, although it may be a distinct lack of empathy or comp***ion toward others <1> there's that <1> i simply dislike humans <0> Agnostics have utterly no cause to be hostile toward religious people. <0> Because the agnostic would have to acknowledge that, although some tidbits might be disprovable, any religion could possibly at some level be correct. <1> you fail to understand the separation between the idea and the person <1> the idea is plausible <1> the person is an idiot <4> Why not go through life entirely on that premise? <0> Thus going back to my earlier conclusion <0> your problem ... may be a distinct lack of empathy or comp***ion toward others <0> Which isn't in any way unique to you <1> i should feel comp***ion to the stupid? <1> +for <4> It's like those people who play the lottery. Your life is pretty sad when you're betting on odds that are worse than for your death by lightning or car accident. <1> i don't feel sorry for them either <0> jb2, no, it's not. <4> Same thing when you need to be some sort of ideological sponge and absorb every idea that comes along no matter how improbable. <0> The religious people I've known have found benefits in being religious that surp*** the infinitesimal chance of reward you mention. <4> It's called escapism. <0> No, it's not. <1> it's called not having to think about things <1> must be nice <0> With some freaks it might be, but they're by no means the majority. <4> Whether in religion, drug use, playing the lottery, or any other vice. <0> khan, you don't think about things. <0> I don't think you can compare drug use to religion. <0> And what's wrong with playing the lottery if you enjoy it <1> heh <4> They're both escapism. <0> Karl Marx could, of course. <0> By your definition, so is this conversation. <0> Or watching TV. <0> Or looking out a window. <4> Karl Marx was a socialist, among other things. <1> except, while watchint tv, people realize it's fantasy <0> You can't just define escapism as whatever it is you don't do.
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