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<0> ok thanks so much
<1> why do we encourage idjits to ask such basic questions, sk8ing ??
<2> sorry
<0> i'm sorry my question it's stupid
<3> vawjrwrk have you ever authored or co-authored a book?
<1> IRR not to publication
<3> vawjrwrk then?
<1> well, not a commercial book
<1> in theory, Solamente and I are co-authoring a book
<3> I see. Thats interesting. Wonder why its in theory :D
<1> progress is _very_ slow
<4> do you guys recommend some kind of a book to learn C++ if I already know C? (something that doesn't go over the basics of a for loop again)
<1> yes, did you look at the webpage in the topic
<1> theres a link to a list of books
<1> I recommend the books at http://rudbek.com/books.html



<1> that's the link, btw
<1> IRR that seems unlikely since it's an "answer book" for "Accelerated C++" we will ***ume that our readers also have AC++ and working the exercises
<4> thank you
<3> vawjrwrk ofcourse. I was just joking
<5> hi vawjr
<1> lo, Quantum``, how goes it?
<5> tis ok, had a knee surgery a few days ago
<5> went very well
<5> its amazing how well arthroscopy ops work
<1> how's your thesis coming?
<1> Quantum`` yes, it's one of the more popular kinds of medicine here
<5> working on it as we speak, finished my exams
<6> man, why can't people write their software as if it'll eventually be open sourced, even if it's just an internal tool
<5> have to have it written up by next month
<6> this thing is nasty
<1> Quantum`` I proofread theses for people "for free" just so I get to read them
<1> peterhu what difference would it make? i.e. what things are you finding that wouldn't make it in OS?
<5> I got the hint :) but I will send it to you once its completed, my professors are very generous and offered me to proof read it before I submit it
<6> the hope is that they'd figure someone besides themselves would actually view the source and *hopefully* have enough pride in the code to not make it a horrible mess of spaghetti
<6> internal tool or not
<6> the fact that this particular application requires modification at the slightest change in the source code structure or when a new product is created is a big red flag someone didn't think it through
<6> and the parts where i know someone offshore has worked is quite visible, comment stating it or not
<6> i've come to have very little respect for developers offshore
<6> and of course, by offshore, i mean those sweat shops they run in india and china
<6> not non-american developers
<1> well, as Scott Meyers points out there are two audiences for every program you write (the user, and the person who will have to fix it)
<1> and since "the person who will have to fix it" is quite often YOU several months later, it behooves you to write clear
<6> well, this particular tool suffered from a "quick and dirty internal tool" mentality
<6> nothing good ever comes out of quick and dirty
<1> agreed
<6> especially when people go "hey, don't we have a tool that does something like that already? why don't we keep adding to it?"
<1> I'm currently converting (from C originally on the Amiga) to C++ several command line utilities.... cleaning them up, using boost etcc
<6> the code reads like devdiv's makefile.def
<6> well, not quite that bad
<6> that thing is 100,000 lines long
<6> +
<1> a .def file? uggggggh
<6> well, not a export def
<6> it's part of the NT build system
<6> it defines the root makefile
<7> time to get some lunch
<6> likely that devdiv's build process is second only to windows in size and scale, but perhaps not
<6> as it can build in less around 8 hours on a quad proc machine
<6> -less
<3> Is this regex ok for a float without signs or exponent part: "((.[0-9]+)|([0-9]+(.[0-9]*)?))"
<2> no
<2> \.
<2> (?:(\.[0-9]+)|([0-9]+(.[0-9]+)?))
<3> I tried that vs 05 says it doesn't recognise the escape :|
<2> (\.[0-9]+|[0-9]+(?:.[0-9]+)?)
<3> Maybe I should do \\.
<8> c++ has regexps?
<2> (\.[0-9]+|[0-9]+(?:\.[0-9]+)?)
<3> C#
<2> you have to double escape them
<3> yeah
<2> for c++ there's boost::regex
<2> http://dumb.ro/regex test.exe
<2> http://dumb.ro/regex%20test.exe
<9> Where's .ro?



<2> on the moon
<9> They make money out of everything these days..
<2> I wish...
<9> but shouldn't it be like ".mo"?
<2> no, that's moldova
<9> ah, and '.ro' was the closest thing?
<9> closest thing not taken i mean
<2> ro is for romania
<2> not taken?
<2> I'm ro
<9> so what about the moon?
<2> oh, .moon is taken
<10> hello all
<2> nice guy :P
<11> blaaah
<11> wtf
<11> metallica covered the theme from 'the good, the bad, and the ugly
<11> '
<11> great
<11> now I want to watch that movie
<8> metallica ****s.
<11> I agree
<8> i don't even know what that is, but it sounds really homoerotic.
<11> its the opposite of homoerotic
<11> g++ is ruining my week
<8> generally speaking, band names of the form [noun] [verb] or [verb] [noun] are really effeminate seeming.
<8> or better yet, [adjective] [noun]
<8> any two word band names for that matter.
<8> as far as contemporary music goes at least.
<11> interesting theory
<6> my theory is that nicknames in the form [noidea] and [noidea128] are really effeminate seeming
<6> damn no jblitzen or solamente
<6> no one to pick on
<8> i hate music nowadays.
<8> it pains me to see things the way they are now.
<6> america has fully embraced the poor, uneducated m***es when they realized that marketing only appears to work on them
<6> hence the quality of marketed music, tv, and movies is horrible
<11> what pains me is the fact that template specializations -must- be declared at the namespace level in g++
<6> could be worse, you could be extending this spaghetti code of a tool
<6> it's not that big a tool and i've been fighting the urge to rewrite it properly
<6> i'm not sure if i'm getting that urge because it's a character flaw, or if the code i'm seeing is as horrible as i think it is
<11> mmm, spaghetti
<6> either way, i'm tired of people that hack out code
<11> it makes maintaining it very fun :P
<6> this tool can only be run in one particular directory, good stuff
<6> it's like a batch file that was converted to C#
<6> i know of no other way to describe it
<6> well, i take that bad, it can run in one directory *level*
<6> bad = back
<11> haha, batch file to c#
<11> nice
<11> the mere thought of that is arousing
<12> hello
<13> hello
<14> Ahoy
<15> yo
<13> anybody happen to know how exactly you would get the system to call you back to tell you the state of the internet connection so that i don't have to poll with InternetGetConnectedState?
<6> hmm, wonder what's a good console bittorrent client, ctorrent?
<15> someone send me a resume so i can have experience in java
<16> interesting approach
<6> ?
<15> anyone know a cool company that hires lots of c++ programmers?
<14> Try Sweden or Russia
<14> It's cool over there
<15> really?
<16> loserman : monster.com
<15> monster.com ****s
<15> it is scary
<14> Yeah, monsters are scary
<15> especially cookiemonster.com
<14> Especially that big one in your room next to your bed
<14> Oh sorry it's your mom
<15> :|


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