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<0> there, he's got graphs of standardized unemployment.
<1> yes, in france workers do have rights. a lot of people died for it. you can imagine it worths the pain to protest against laws that destroys those rights
<0> it's a 2 year probation period in new jobs
<0> until you're 26.
<2> I think the main problem was the discriminary nature of it. Penalising students over anyone else, including the politicians p***ing it
<2> would have had a much easier time of it if the entire populous was under that rule
<1> yes Asriel, you are right
<1> this is in fact the real problem
<2> then it would be pretty much what we have in the UK
<2> once you've been employed 2 years (think its 2, might be one), you gain a load of extra rights
<2> though you do have a fair few rights from day one, to non distriminatory firing
<1> the discriminatory nature of it :) you are on the track to understand the whole story
<3> well, we have anti-discrimination laws here, but employment is still fully at will
<4> peterhu most places
<2> if you want to get rid of someone for a reason not related to their performance (and there are laws around that), after the probationary period, you must give them redundancy
<3> probably not in california
<1> btw 10 % unemployment rate is not a big figure
<2> and actually demonstrate their position is redundant
<3> but no one counds that back***ward state
<0> 10% isn't big?
<1> some states are far more unemployed than france
<0> Yes it is
<3> it's as back***ward as texas, just the other side of the spectrum
<3> counds = counts
<0> 1 in 10 people, out of work.
<4> actually California IS an "at will" state
<0> And, you should look at your long term unemployment rates.
<1> :)
<0> most unemployment in the US is short term
<0> less than a year.
<3> unless you're jblitzen and qualify for disability from obeseity
<4> I thought it was underweight brain
<0> http://www.demographia.com/db-2003intlunem.htm
<1> so I have work :)
<1> have a good work too
<3> vawjrwrk: luckily stupidity isn't a disability
<3> otherwise 95% of the workforce would be on it
<0> and imagine the taxes for the remaining 5%
<3> i wouldn't mind european-sized vacation time though
<3> and work hours
<3> lazy bums!
<2> :)
<2> the work lifestyle is pretty good. and improving, at least in the uk
<2> a lot more flexible working hours being brought in
<3> i'm surprised i haven't lost full internet connectivity yet today; i awoke to two unmarked trucks digging up parts of my lawn this morning
<3> looks like verizon FIOS will be available shortly
<5> what's that peterhu?
<3> fiber optic connection to your home
<5> speed?
<3> let me check
<4> jillions of GB/sec
<3> 5 Mbps - $35, 15 Mbps - $45, 30 Mbps - $180?!
<3> pfft
<3> though i get "16" Mbps with my cable connection now
<3> but i'm paying more
<2> usage caps?
<0> ok
<0> lunch
<0> what should I have for lunch?
<3> i'd have to grok the fine print
<5> a goose?
<5> that isn't good value peterhu
<0> FIOS?
<3> yeah, i'm not very happy with those prices
<2> I want another of those now :/
<0> isn't 15mbps pretty good?
<5> actually yes - i didn't look at that one
<3> i think i pay $60 now for 16
<3> so it'd save me some cash
<0> both ways?
<3> i want tv over fiber though
<3> 16/5
<5> the most I can get is 3.5 mbits :-(
<0> I think I'll get a burger over at tied house.
<0> later.
<2> BT just rolled out their MaxDSL stuff here. Up to 8mbps
<3> it's 2 mpbs up for the 5/15, and 5 mpbs up for the 30
<3> (FiOS)
<3> DSL = pfft
<2> have totally uncapped, unrestricted 1mbps at the moment. Going to a capped service does not appeal
<5> yes Asriel - that's what i'd get here but i'm too far from the exchange
<3> i have no cap on my 16
<2> meh, the LLU is taking off slowly. I think that's up to 40mbps
<2> really? Including static IP, no usage restrictions at all?
<3> i've never seen more than 10 mbps throughput (yeah, i know, 16 is also theoretical)
<2> i.e. I can run servers off this and they won't get bitchy
<3> i don't think my ip is explicitly static in my service contract, but it hasn't changed since i got it almost a year ago
<5> i have a usage restriction...i'm not allowed to download anything obscene
<3> all ports are open
<2> the 8mbps is the same in terms of usage, but it has a maximum download cap
<3> no limits
<2> which I'm not happy about
<3> i've downloaded probably 50GB in a month, no problem
<2> not that I'll ever hit it - all the machines on this network barely sum up 10gig a month
<5> all ports are open on most UK ISPs afaik
<3> granted, it was 50 GB of goat pr0n
<5> but they all have anti-porn T&Cs :-)
<3> but still
<3> anti-porn? wtf
<3> that's 99% of the internet right there
<5> no - much more than that
<5> :-)
<3> pfft and they call us prude!
<1> Asriel, peterhu > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/Unemployment_rate_world_from_CIA_figures.PNG
<0> all right
<0> well, there's a delay.
<0> $180 is too much though
<0> and 5mbps up still isn't great.
<3> mexico has better unemployment? hmmmmm
<0> I wish they would just uncap that stuff.
<5> unemployment figures are misleading Valdo...i think they should publish EMPLOYMENT figures
<2> indeed
<3> tell that to the illegals!
<5> employment figures are quite easy to establish - the tax authority can provide them almost instantly in most countries
<2> depends if you're registered
<5> countries like finland where most people under 30 are on pointless college courses one after another would actually have very low employment rates
<1> yyparse, you may be right
<2> well, you take off people in full time studentships
<2> and house(wife|husband)s
<3> speaking of the unemployed, it's JBlitzen!
<1> yeaaah
<1> :)
<1> clap, clap :)
<3> sometimes it's easy to forget that nearly all of our office space (except directly into our cubes / offices) has a camera pointed at it
<3> i'm watching the people upstairs talking in the lobby from my desk
<3> heh
<1> if I'm not registered to the tax, but still is working, ma I unemployed
<3> lazy bums, get back to work!
<1> in france a lot of people are unregistered :)
<3> JBlitzen doesn't have that problem; he's a registered *** offender
<1> lool
<6> Ungay, peterhu. Ungay!
<3> IMMUNE
<3> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000100&sid=aduNTcpDuDd4&refer=germany
<3> wow what a confusing article
<3> nice work
<3> 16 days!!!! oh, that's with 50,000 centrifuges. they appear to only have 164 in operation, and plan to construct 3,000 next year
<3> wtf is that 50,000 figure coming from? do they already have them constructed?
<3> but not in use?
<3> what a load of sensational crap
<3> and just having weapons grade uranium a bomb does not make
<7> .
<7> damn internu was down for over a day...had withdrawal symptoms
<3> good god ireland ****s
<7> it sure does
<7> dealing with the telco is like a story from Kafka
<3> well, same goes over here
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