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<0> except as an example of how crappy that companys tech is
<1> Now you can watch game footage that has never been seen before!
<2> weee
<2> climbing in Red Rock all weekend
<2> so, if I disappear and never show up again
<2> it's probably because I'm dead.
<0> can I have your stuff when you fall off and die?
<1> Bad for camping goods stores
<0> I need another machine
<2> oh, sorry
<2> it will likely all go to my brother.
<0> bah
<3> man you guys ****
<4> careful with that "****" word
<0> yikes, the internal clock on this machine drifts > 10 seconds a day
<3> if you say it three times into a mirror in a dark room, jblitzen appears



<0> so now we know what you've been doing in that dark room every night
<3> indeed
<5> Asriel: I have the same on some machine, but iirc it's about 2 minutes/day
<0> was just playing around with ntp and noticed it. synced yesterday, and already the resync added 11 seconds
<0> ah well. teh micracal of teh INTARNET is saving me from spending $1.50 on a new battery
<3> got splitvt emerged with the patch, why the bug is still open for a better part of a year, i have no idea
<3> nifty little app
<6> bnc off
<3> yay
<3> someone managed to repro a hard to repro bug and they had a debugger on their machine
<3> bad network packet is to blame
<3> woot
<0> *cheer*
<3> well, it's really two bugs, one that the bad packet was sent, and two that on my end i don't handle it gracefully
<3> basically i have to ask N number of entities over the network to respond, and < N do
<3> so my UI sits there indefinitely waiting for the rest to respond (not hung, you can cancel the dialog; it just means you can't get beyond the dialog)
<3> only solution i can think of, since i can't rely on correct responses (or any) is to timeout and display what i have
<0> seems reasonable
<0> depends what sort of app it is. could say "Recieved 5 of 8 replies", and give them the option of retrying or continuing
<0> or waiting
<3> that's not a bad idea either
<0> if it's geared for technical people, that would probably be the best thing. also stops the UI looks stationary when it's working
<0> if its for mom & pop end users, then it's probably a bad idea. they'll just get confused
<1> And if its for republicans, then say that this error maybe due to Iran's nuclear enrichment program.
<3> at the very least, i'm going to change it to show "Replies X / N recieved..."
<3> (in addition to timing out)
<0> even more useful, if the list of servers contacted isn't too long, have it show the list of things you're waiting for
<3> unlike some of our other applications, this one is geared to less technical people
<0> Recieved x of n replies. Waiting for
<3> it can be quite big
<0> 192.168.0.1
<0> 192.168.0.2
<0> (and y more)
<0> that way, if it always times out on like one or two servers, you don't get users sitting there going "I KNOW! I KNOW! WHAT FSCKING SERVER IS IT!"
<3> i'd rather show X / N and then, perhaps in the timeout prompt, show the ones that failed to respond
<0> also works
<7> make the user guess the amount of received replies based on a decimal ratio and a 5 second time limit, if they guess wrong then wipe the MBR
<0> or add a dropdown "Details" chevron
<8> hello
<0> ah, UI design is fun!
<0> now I have to implement one using nothing but win32 api calls
<1> Asriel why?
<0> because I don't want any more external library dependencies in this app. It'll make it harder to port around and the code bigger
<0> it's only for a trivial 3 field dialog box, so it's actually almost easier this way
<3> pfft
<3> .NET
<0> yeah, because that's conducive to platform portable code :P
<8> i get for one of my functions undeclared (first use this function)
<0> or lightweight runtime footprint
<8> can you look on the reason plz
<0> (both of which are concerns. I'd use C++/CLI, but the lightweight runtime is something you can't get with .net)
<0> fugo - Probably because you didn't declare a function you used
<8> did that
<0> i.e. you defined it after you used it, without predeclaring a prototype. or you forgot to include a header
<8> http://rafb.net/paste/results/UifM6U18.html
<8> have header
<0> what line gives the error?
<8> 29
<0> your operator/ doesn't have a cl*** namespace qualifier
<8> it"s friend
<0> i.e. it's in global scope. your recursion function is in cl*** scope, outside of it's view



<8> but the / function is friend one
<0> then you'll have to qualify the name fully and make recursion static. you can't just call instance members of your friends without an instance
<0> friends let each other see their private parts
<0> (at least, that's what khan told me)
<8> why my recurtion shouold be static
<8> ?
<0> just think of it from the compilers point of view. How's it going to resolve what function you're talking about?
<0> Well, if it's an instance member, what instance would it be called on?
<0> in your usage of it. Non static functions need an instance
<8> yes
<0> compilers working along, and comes across
<8> how i can do it ?
<0> temp=recursion (temp,temp1,temp2,nbits,Modul);
<9> operators + - * and / shouldn't need to be friends
<0> now, it needs to find recursion. it's not in it's namespace, and it's not on an instance
<0> where's it to go?
<8> how i do it working so ?
<0> you fix it by either giving it an instance or making recursion static
<0> or refactoring the entire thing. lots of choice
<8> how i make a function a instance ?
<0> you're writing overloaded operators and you're not clear on this?
<0> not my business to say, but you might be running before you can walk
<8> sorry but still need help
<8> hmm
<8> Asriel can you help me little bit more
<9> fugo, did you write operator +=, then write operator+ in terms of it?
<8> what do you say ?
<9> fugo, did you write operator +=, then write operator+ in terms of it?
<8> how i make the thing he told me about my function ?
<9> you're not listening
<8> yes i am now
<8> what do you say
<9> fugo, did you write operator +=, then write operator+ in terms of it?
<0> sorry, was afk clearing up dinner
<8> vawjrwrk fist + after that +=
<8> so
<9> fugo wrong, and I told you that sevral days ago
<9> so you don't listen, I won't talk
<8> i don"t understand what you want from me
<8> can some one explain to me the problem of recurtion function
<0> I have
<0> I think vawjrs pissed off because you took pains to tell you how to do it
<0> you ignored him, and then wonder why you're having a hard time
<8> i didn"t understood you
<8> sorry
<0> I'm not sure how I can make it any simpler short of telling you what to type
<8> newbye
<0> you've got a function that wants to call another function
<8> yes
<0> but the other function is both A) An instance function, and you have no instance
<0> and B) Outside your scope to call statically
<0> so you either need to A) Give it an instance
<0> so you can call "foo.recursion(...)"
<0> or make it static and call "Integer::recursion(...)"
<0> or move the function outside of integer if it has nothing to do with it
<8> last option is not good
<0> once you've managed it, rewrite the entire thing but write operator+= before operator+, and the magic of why it's easier that way around will become clear
<0> then the first is your only option
<0> or the second, I guess :)
<8> you want me to call like that
<0> ***uming I wanted to keep your design and I was given this code, I'd do the second. make it static, and call it
<8> temp=Integer::recursion (temp,temp1,temp2,nbits,Modul);
<0> yup
<8> still error
<8> cannot call member function `Integer Integer::recursion(Integer, Integer, Integer, long long int, Integer&)' without object
<8> http://rafb.net/paste/results/7lc0RF12.html
<10> yo
<8> Asriel
<11> hello .. should I learn C before C++ ?
<8> yes
<8> it helps
<11> yes ..but it's a litle bit confusing ... :|
<8> how can i solve that error cannot call member function `Integer Integer::recursion(Integer, Integer, Integer, long long int, Integer&)' without object


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