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<0> cool.. thanks
<1> I recommend you get a book titled "Effective C++" by Scott Meyers. It covers crucial tidbits like that.
<1> DoIt: http://www.rudbek.com/books.html
<1> Get those books.
<0> Solamente, i will surely buy all those, after getting this job.... :))
<2> Ah, but can you get the job without the knowledge? :)
<1> Though I recommend you get the Stroustrup book at the same time you get the first book.
<1> That's what's scaring me.
<0> yeah.. that is what. i need to get
<2> I've heard plenty of horror stories about IBM
<2> So the answer is probably "yes"
<3> i guess you could just warez the books, and then buy them when you get the job...that wouldn't be too immoral :-)
<0> but all at a time i cant buy.. i will try one or two
<3> (we don't approve of such immorality here)
<0> ha ha ha



<0> yeha.. i wont go for that.. i will buy one or two now
<4> Solamente I follow Meyers' advice and always write the initializers in the order the variables are declared...just so nobody gets confused
<1> Good idea.
<1> But then some yahoo that got the job without having read the books modifies your cl***.
<1> And you're screwed.
<3> yea vawjr, then some low life will change the declaration and not the initialiser list
<1> But still, that's the way it should be created.
<1> Just avoid order dependency.
<4> yyparse but we keep EVERYTHIN in source control, and I know how to use annotate/blame
<3> lol
<1> That's when a snide code comment comes in handy.
<1> /* Some jack*** changed the order (see code logs for more) */
<0> thank you all... see all tomorrow...
<0> byee.....
<4> Solamente you're far too kind "Some jack***" ... Paul changed the order and cost us 3 days of debugging
<5> java code: if(defaultValue!=null) { return defaultValue; } else { return null; }
<4> you see the same crap everywhere if (a == b) return true; else return false;
<5> Luckily, any decent JVM will eliminate all of that code... bt it's still stupid
<6> Off to office
<5> oh god... my wife just discovered that the mouse wheel will scroll window text
<7> Hooray for the wife.
<7> Give her a popsickle.
<5> hurray for me, my wife just waltzed her way into 1998
<7> Or is it popsicle?
<5> popsicle, I think
<8> ah, learn something new every day
<2> and forget two old things
<8> windows ce processes have a 32 MB address space, and there is an overlapping region for library loads and heap allocations. if the heap has grown large, it can prevent additional libraries from loading, where as loading the library at the start of the application will successfully load the library and the heap allocations can still occur (just in an area which libraries can't be loaded into)
<2> until after a few years, you have negative knowledge and walk around ****ing real knowledge away from people. Then you go work for a blue chip IT department
<8> having known this (i've never done CE development before), i would have raised a flag with the billions of little dlls this project has
<8> each of which is being rounded up to a 64KB boundary
<2> uhho. time for some amalgamation
<8> normally you would want to minimize the number of dlls anyway
<8> unfortunately, "good" .NET practices can make you go ***embly crazy
<2> depends if they provide discreet reusable components, imo
<2> obviously not to the "One object per DLL" mentality level, but no point mixing oil and water
<8> well, these things are discrete on paper, but they offer no reusable functionality on their own, and the main application project references all of these ***emblies statically
<8> unfortunately, i came on this project after two months of development
<8> the layout was agreed upon before i showed up
<2> hmf
<2> could consider ilmerge
<2> unless the security/loading model requires the segregation of the ***emblies
<8> nope, it doesn't
<8> coding started a little bit before the scope of things was defined
<8> so things have sort of grown adhoc, it feels
<2> then the cheap and dirty solution is just to ilmerge everything before referencing
<8> and the "this is a prototype" mentality hasn't helped
<9> Plz May i ask a Question in C++!
<1> Don't ask to ask. Just ask. The topic says so.
<10> just ASK, Palestinez
<11> you just did
<9> OK
<9> Im programming F-DISK Simulator program
<9> but i need "ESC" CODE
<10> no clue what that means, Palestinez
<9> when i click ESC ON KEyboard the program must return back
<9> any help!
<11> umm what OS ?
<10> 'return back' ?
<9> no no



<11> and what compiler and platform?
<9> ESC BUTTON >>
<12> What OPERATING SYSTEM
<12> ARE YOU USING?
<9> Borland 5.02
<10> heh
<1> Oh dear lord
<12> This is hopeless
<11> uhhh
<9> Win XP SP2
<11> forget it
<9> WHY sIR!!
<10> why are you using an ancient compiler, Palestinez ?
<11> whats an "F_DISK" simulator when its at home?
<9> ALSO i can use C.NET
<10> there's no such thing as C.NET
<13> maybe he means c-net
<10> c/net ?
<9> sorry i mean .net
<1> Since we have no idea what you're writing, how can we tell you what you can use?
<1> But sure, use .NET
<10> you want a program that acts and looks like FDISK, but doesn't actually do anything?
<9> no i use now borland
<9> but it is easy to turn to .net
<11> 5.02 is older than most ppl in this channel
<9> ok
<1> And it's not C++.
<9> never mind
<1> It just looks a little bit like C++.
<9> any help abt ESC on any compiler related to c++
<1> It's OS-dependent. Use getch() and test the return code.
<11> you need to read the keyboard and act
<9> no no getch() for any character
<1> I should say that it's compiler-specific.
<9> i need only ESC
<11> thats nice
<1> Are you having trouble hearing?
<9> do u know abt FDISK ?? ON DOS!!
<1> "Use getch() and test the return code."
<11> this is a console app ?
<9> NO
<11> aka cmd prompt
<10> dos died a long time ago, dont use it
<9> i knowwwwwwwwwwww
<9> look bebe
<11> try #museum
<9> while u r partitioning hard disk
<9> u need to know abt fdisk command and options
<9> i do exactly FDISK
<10> Palestinez I thought fdisk only worked with FAT partitions
<9> but still something DARK WHICH IS ESC
<9> yes
<1> "Use getch() and test the return code."
<1> Now go.
<11> its a s(t)imulator
<9> how can i test if i dont know ESC!!
<10> you look it up
<1> c-bot google ascii chart
<11> 0x1b
<9> 0x1b~~??
<1> And besides, you call getch(), press ESC, and not the return code. Then you know the code.
<1> Duh.
<1> s/not/note
<9> solamente private plz
<9> :)
<1> No
<9> y~
<11> by the way your question has nothing whatsoever to do with C++
<9> ah
<9> i programmed subnetting
<9> in Networking
<10> so?
<9> nothing
<9> :S so no help for me


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