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<WimS> yes i think so to
<WimS> maybe netlimiter would work
<freed> i got something like that going now, but cant get a xfer to go through
<jill_s> if you have a friend on your ichat who can send a file xfer have them do it
<WimS> maybe the IP line isn't set up before the server have recieved connection accepted from the laptop
<jill_s> yeah i know **** about ichat
<jill_s> no chance your friend had a static ip on his laptop
<jill_s> ?
<freed> nope
<freed> deff dynamic
<jill_s> i think your friend is screwed
<freed> ichat is just the mac aim client
<jill_s> aim is the devil
<jill_s> but then again so is mac
<jill_s> i think this is the best thing to happen to your friend
<jill_s> now he can get a real computer
<vawjrwrk> jill_s you might want to glance over http://rudbek.com/Code_gui.htm some are good, some are outdated, but it's a starting place
<rdragon> heh
<freed> *should work on same principles
<jill_s> ok cool victor thanks a bunch :)
<peterhu> there
<peterhu> now i am one ***y awesome beast
<jill_s> no peter you are just less greasy
<peterhu> i said german, not italian
<peterhu> BOOYA
<jill_s> victor is my formatting ... well does it make you want to stab your pupils with a plastic spoon
<peterhu> even opened up the windows in my office
<peterhu> ahhh
<peterhu> fresh air
<jill_s> void Get_Valium (void);
<jill_s> lol
<jill_s> you want me to capitize :(
<vawjrwrk> I didn't say that... that was a set of guidelines that 7 people in a department agreed on for writing our code
<jill_s> no i appreciate it :)
<vawjrwrk> nobody was happy w/ all of it
<jill_s> the comments are hilarious
<vawjrwrk> I'll tell my son
<vawjrwrk> he wrote the entire document from our notes
<jill_s> whatchoo talkin bout willis
<jill_s> lol
<vawjrwrk> and tried to make it entertaining in the hopes people would actually read it
<jill_s> it makes it significantly easier to read
<jill_s> accelerated c++ is a great book
<jill_s> but if i do more than about 5-10 pages
<peterhu> underscores and caps, blech
<jill_s> my eyes glaze over
<peterhu> GetValium or get_valium, that's the only way peter flies
<jill_s> and i have to start rereading paragraphs
<[m]aniac> peterhu camelcase is worse... though I've grown accustomed to it from so much C# coding
<jill_s> i'm a get_valium girl myself
<peterhu> yes, camelcse is definitely worse
<[m]aniac> I can't commit to camel case for functions though
<[m]aniac> proper case
<jill_s> in school we do a lot of getValium
<jill_s> because of java
<peterhu> why are you using camel casing in C#?
<jill_s> they are very anti underscore
<peterhu> that's not FxCop compliant
<[m]aniac> but I gave in for variables, private object m_myVariable;
<peterhu> ah
<peterhu> for fields
<peterhu> ok
<peterhu> that's correct
<[m]aniac> hehe
<[m]aniac> I tried hungarian with C#
<[m]aniac> but I just found it to be a PITA
<peterhu> ick
<[m]aniac> "lets see, textbox, txt or tb... ok what about custom gridviews I do.. still gv? no, wait..."
<[m]aniac> it was just a nightmare
<[m]aniac> everynow and then I throw a string strSomeName; in there, but for the most part I'm using string someName;
<[m]aniac> I miss C++ coding :(
<[m]aniac> I need to get a contract job that let's me do some f'ing c++
<peterhu> same
<jill_s> sorry the whiteboard program works
<jill_s> you're beart
<peterhu> there's nothing here for C++ developers unless you want to be a lockheed bitch
<jill_s> beat*
<peterhu> lockheed has forever lost me for employement as their salary was *insulting*
<jill_s> i know this program is bigtime
<peterhu> 1/3 paycut? pleaaaaase
<jill_s> see now i used to do the int& x, and then rdragon yelled at me and said int &x
<jill_s> i think it was him
<jill_s> i'd like to blame him anyhow
<peterhu> int& x;
<peterhu> don't listen to him
<jill_s> ok
<peterhu> rdragon lives in florida
<peterhu> you going to trust someone from florida?
<jill_s> damnit rd :(
<jill_s> welll he was in NY
<jill_s> sigh!
<jill_s> ok
<peterhu> i do int* x; too
<jill_s> for (int i=0; i<whatver, ... -> ++i or i++ or who cares
<peterhu> anyone who declares more than one variable on a line = satan
<peterhu> you should favor ++i
<jill_s> i liked them spread out but i felt like my main was too long
<jill_s> i do
<jill_s> because rdragon said to
<[m]aniac> peterhu yea I hate that too
<[m]aniac> more than one var on a line
<jill_s> because it's faster?
<peterhu> in this case, the optimizer will most certainly make them equivilant
<jill_s> something like that
<[m]aniac> string x = y = z = "hello world"; makes me cringe
<peterhu> but you shouldn't rely on that
<vawjrwrk> ewwwwww
<jill_s> oh yuck i didn't do that
<vawjrwrk> m_ drives me to distraction
<jill_s> string month, day, year;
<jill_s> is that ok?
<peterhu> especially when it has to do with non-trivial object construction
<peterhu> vic, agreed
<[m]aniac> jill_s not in my book heh
<[m]aniac> I like m_
<[m]aniac> it's a nice distinction
<vawjrwrk> jill_s the ++blah vs blah++ matters when you get away from intrinsic types
<jill_s> so it's just good to do it ++blah and get into the habit now?
<[m]aniac> Phil has adopted object name_; <-- trailing _
<vawjrwrk> yup
<jill_s> or i will be swapping depending?
<[m]aniac> that is awful to me
<vawjrwrk> [m]aniac yeah, I do that also
<vawjrwrk> some of the time
<peterhu> jill: just stick to using prefix when you don't care about the return
<jill_s> ok
<[m]aniac> vawAFKhome that trailing _ kills me
<[m]aniac> object* variable_; variable_->whatever();
<vawjrwrk> [m]aniac well leading _Upcase is illegal
<[m]aniac> that _-> kills me
<jill_s> lol
<vawjrwrk> I use it iff people insist on argument names that would otherwise be spelled the same
<[m]aniac> vawAFKhome I didn't say it wasn't... but m_Upcase isn't ;)
<peterhu> vic: same
<[m]aniac> taht's why I use m_
<[m]aniac> the trailing _ just kills me... operators get "losT" imo
<[m]aniac> variable_.something(); variable_->something();
<peterhu> i pretty much only use _ in a constructor's args
<vawjrwrk> yeah, I've moved to puttting the _ on the arg names of constructors
<vawjrwrk> let the intellisense readers deal with it
<jill_s> is it bad to be an if else junky always using {} ? i put them on their own lines
<jill_s> but even if it's one line i can't help but {} it
<vawjrwrk> I often put {} around 1 line, which then takes 3 lines
<jill_s> yes
<jill_s> if i don't i end up having to comment it
<jill_s> because at quick glance i can't get the thought again
<peterhu> i skip {} iff the if and else statements are one line
<vawjrwrk> but not always
<[m]aniac> vawAFKhome I put {} around one line too
<[m]aniac> and I prefer { and } on their own line


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