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<0> yeah
<1> ****in' idjits
<0> hm?
<0> there should be a menu option to open a console
<0> (which is most likely xterm)
<2> it's in accessories i believe
<2> why they don't come with a half-way descent console, is beyond me
<3> vawjrwrk: What idjits irk you today?
<3> Yeah, I can't figure out where a lot of distro maintainers are coming from with a lot of their defaults.
<0> I prefer Konsole, but that's part of KDE
<3> I want to have the option to customize everything, not the necessity.
<1> well, 1st, there's no xterm on our "desktop"
<1> but there IS under accessories, a terminal, apparently that's it
<3> vawjrwrk: What cn28h said. KDE is default window-manager for Ubuntu, isn't it?
<0> nope
<0> Gnome



<3> No?
<1> I don't know
<0> kubuntu is the KDE one
<3> Oh.
<1> it's some GUI piece of ****
<4> haha
<1> Gnome....I've seen that name on the system.... I got the terminal working long enough to identify the machine
<3> vawjrwrk: If you're at the console, you might be able to switch to a text-based virtual console.
<3> Ctrl-Alt-Fx
<4> I'd imagine you can choose to log out of the desktop GUI environment?
<0> I'm not sure that you can
<0> you might have to kill X to do it
<3> Yeah. And depending on how the system is set up, the X server may respawn and simply give you an X-based login prompt.
<1> we'll take it as we're finding it.
<4> you can change it so X doesn't load at startup
<0> if you really want to kill X: ctrl+alt+backspace
<1> all this so we can figure out what LinkScan/11.6b Unix actually is / does
<4> anyway, time for me to lseep
<1> yeah, I gotta go get my daughter from school (last day....it's over until Sep)
<0> later vaw
<2> sigh, my tv tuner's drivers install just fine, but my tv tuner application just busy hangs on start
<2> on vista
<2> other than that, everything works great
<2> also, just watched goodnight and goodluck; how the **** did that not beat out "crash" at the oscars
<2> crash was so predictable and they beat you over the head with the theme
<2> the dialog was uninspired too
<2> pfft
<2> dialogue
<5> guys let me send u back to KG1 cl*** and please tell me .. what is void ? and why we use it ?
<6> void means no type
<6> if a function returns void, it doesn't return a value
<5> u mean
<5> int return an integer
<5> voind return nothong ?
<5> nothing
<6> that's right
<5> so why we need it ?
<7> to tell you it doesn't return anything
<5> what will happen if we delete in a program a line begins with void
<5> let me ask like this to understand
<6> try it.
<7> ??????
<5> ok thanc
<5> x
<2> ah ha!
<2> just needed to check the "run as administrator" check box
<2> app now starts up without hanging
<2> now i don't need to ditch vista just yet
<8> Each summer, we are proud to select a Pro Bono Lawyer of the Year. The selected attorney is celebrated at a banquet in his or her honor. The prize is two weeks of severance pay.
<7> our test guy at work likes it
<8> http://anonymouslawfirm.com/page.php?text_id=Pro_Bono
<2> yeah i like it too
<2> and i'd prefer it were out, but i'm not quite sure exactly what would compell me to upgrade
<2> it'll be a hard sell
<2> of course, since i'm a gamer, eventually i'd have to upgrade
<2> not that i won't get it as soon as it's available at the company store
<7> you still get stuff from the company store??
<2> i could if i joined the alumni network, but that costs a hundred or two a year
<2> however, i have family i can mooch off of
<2> my brother in law works for microsoft too
<7> ah



<2> definitely some bugs in the recycling bin area
<7> you're running vista-64 right?
<2> no, my iso didn't burn correctly and i was too lazy to download it again
<2> i had downloaded both just in case
<2> my x64 install blue screened about 2 minutes into it
<2> winpe didn't boot
<2> let's just say they seriously need to work on how they distribute software
<2> those third party download managers are horrible
<2> i don't even think they verify the download
<2> think i'll watch jarhead, see how that movie goes
<2> likely won't come close to goodnight and goodluck
<2> heh, the taskbar preview isn't a frame behind as far as i can tell
<2> i can watch tv from both windows just fine
<2> now if only the media center recognized the tuner, i could use it to record tv
<9> woo, payday weekend
<9> that means... virtually nothing
<6> rain
<9> heh
<6> it always means it'll rain.
<9> EwIck do you guys use havok?
<9> or did I ask that already
<6> not for the project I'm working on
<9> ah
<6> it's not like it's all that useful..
<9> eh?
<6> well.. most games I've played only partly made use of it
<9> sure as hell beats writing your own physics engine
<6> it's like... wow okay, things bounce around AFTER you did
<9> that doesn't mean it's not all that useful ;)
<6> there's just not a good use we can make out of it for this project
<9> nod
<9> i forgot what your the project it
<9> ...
<9> i forgot what your project is
<6> except for little things like boxes bouncing around.. that's easy to do
<6> I never told you because it's confidential
<9> ah ;)
<9> what platform?
<6> pc/xenon/ps2
<9> xenon?
<6> 360
<9> oh
<9> why is it called xenon?
<6> it's its code name
<7> because it's inert
<9> i see
<6> it ain't no WII
<9> heh
<6> I liked the conference guy presenting the wii at E3
<6> he was like
<6> "I want to thank everyone who made good comments about the name. Both of you."
<9> haha
<10> I believe the industry is a little bit out of touch with reality look at the price of theses next generations system
<9> watch everyone buy them anyway
<7> our company had a contest to come up with a new name for our product (most people suggested we not change it)
<7> Kepler such as?
<6> dude, the 360 is 4 times more powerful when my current machine which I paid $2000
<6> I believe it's a fair price
<10> vawjr the price of the next gen console and games .. nintendo got a point, but they don't got the game thought
<7> I don't know how much they are, so I can't comment very well
<9> 360 is $300 or $400, ps3 is $400 or $500, i think
<10> well hehe the ps3 will be 499$
<6> wii was said to be sold for about $200
<10> depending on the models yeah ..
<9> or is it 500/600
<6> but then it's not that great of a machine
<7> the value of the US$ is falling off a cliff
<2> that's not true
<2> JBlitzen said everything was fine
<9> the wii is more like fancy bells without the horsepower
<10> anyways that's a lot of money compared others systems I think people won't buy them as fast as before
<6> great controller though :)
<9> i haven't tried it yet
<6> I loved the demo they presented where you had to fight with a sword but like for real


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