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<0> nah, we should ****ing SHOOT the ****ers what want the paper censured or the artists punsihed
<0> no ****
<1> and said he thinks it's offensive.
<0> W. stands for Wuss apparently
<1> and, for some reason
<1> no American media is printing the cartoons
<1> we should be WITH Europe on this one
<1> it's not like NOT being with them is helping us any
<0> yeah, we don't _always_ have to argue w/ the French
<1> these people are still attacking our military bases
<1> they're still blaming the US
<0> maybe Rice is correct
<1> ?
<1> what did she have to say?
<0> http://reuters.myway.com/article/20060208/2006-02-08T192806Z_01_SP33488_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-RELIGION-CARTOONS-DC.html
<0> that Syria and Iran are fanning the violence



<1> ahhh, yes
<1> I did read this.
<1> this is all going to go too far eventually it seems
<0> it's already gone too far
<1> no, not yet
<1> it hasn't lead to war yet.
<0> people have died
<0> over a ****ing cartoon
<0> that's "too far"
<1> any innocents yet?
<1> it's all been rioters shot so far, from what I've read.
<0> yeah I think a couple caught in the riots
<1> but, this really hasn't happened outside of their own countries
<1> this isn't going on in Europe really
<1> or the US
<1> there's been a lot of this recently it seems
<1> the riots in France
<1> now riots all over the middle east
<1> but, none of those countries will actually go to war
<1> maybe there will be terrorist attacks.
<1> I wonder how Europe will respond to that
<1> if the news papers that ran the cartoons did get blown up.
<1> Their leaders seem to be appologizing like crazy
<1> http://tonguetied.us/2006/02/oh_fer_cryin_out_loud.php#001986
<0> well, the rioters would get shot in this country...and NOT by the police
<2> what country?
<0> U.S. of A.
<2> uhm
<2> who's shooting rioters?
<1> I think there was some of that going on in New Orleans
<1> iirc
<0> I said _would_
<0> not _have_
<2> okay, I follow. who would shoot rioters?
<2> :D
<0> many of us
<3> JBlitzen might
<1> hey
<0> you wanna come here and riot to demand punishment for someone speaking/publishing freely? not a good idea
<4> I might
<3> nod :)
<1> someone told me Canada had a higher per capita gun ratio than the US
<0> you come even CLOSE to threatening my family or my friends and I _will_.... no might about it
<4> Yeah, it's all about the threat
<4> Someone wants a war, you have to give it to them
<3> I agree with that vawjr
<4> Someone just wants to look good for their girlfriend, you shouldn't kill them
<4> The riots about the cartoons are largely fake
<0> if he has a Molotov cocktail in his hand, he's toast
<4> In fact, entirely fake
<0> no matter HOW good he want's to look for his "girl"
<4> No, he's a threat
<3> reality check - Its a cartoon, for God's sake
<4> The guy next to him just trying to be cool isn't
<4> Necessarily
<4> Those situations are very tenuous
<1> the riots are fake?
<1> from what source?
<4> Yes, the riots are fake.
<4> From me.
<1> that's not really good enough



<4> They have nothing to do with cartoons.
<1> you'll have to do better than that.
<4> No, I really don't.
<1> oh
<1> that I can buy
<4> You've been in California too long.
<4> Yeah
<1> but the riots are going on.
<4> Sure, but not in the way they're advertised.
<4> In at least one case they were found to have Syrian soldiers dressed in casual wear at the heart of the ***embly
<1> Iran and Syria have been accused of fanning this.
<4> And more typically they're instigated by radicals trying to demonstrate the political weakness of the west.
<4> They don't care about the cartoons
<4> But they LOVE demonstrating that we're such pussies that we'd think they'd care about cartoons.
<1> and the West is showing just how weak we are
<4> And that's what it's all about.
<0> I agree w/ the "demonstrate weakness of the west"
<4> It's 100 college kids rattling the fence of a military base to get in
<4> Take down the fence and you can bet they'll just stand there like dumb***es
<4> They're not stupid
<4> Nobody would do this for cartoons, it's all for appearances
<1> clearly it's not for cartoons
<1> since they're protesting the US
<4> Yah
<0> oh, I'm sure there are some crazies who would do it for the cartoons....but they've run out of virgins in Paradise, so it's not worth it now
<4> Recent analyses are getting much better about the arab situation
<4> At some point even liberal Americans won't be able to hide from the reality
<4> I'm unclear on who's instigating this stuff, though
<1> yes they will
<1> stupid
<4> Sift back through the news a few months and you'll find the roots of it
<4> Some demonstration in Iran, maybe
<4> Government organized, of course
<1> someone talk to _m_ about that auto ban
<0> why?
<4> I did a couple times, he said it'd be okay
<1> because he keeps booting people
<4> But I think Merlin's okay too
<1> giving them no indication as to why.
<4> Just too many nicks in here with that format
<0> not really, only noidea's
<0> and it doesn't ban him
<4> And merlin's, and pfloyd's, and one other today
<1> merlin27 is a person
<1> cloud99 earlier today was banned
<4> Just today
<0> it shouldn't have gotten cloud99
<1> it bans anyone with name##
<0> it's supposed to do only 10-39
<1> oh, it's not.
<1> it got bob77
<1> then cloud99
<1> and it bans
<1> [16:22] * Merlin27 has joined #c++
<1> [16:23] * _m_ sets mode: +b *!*@86.104.238.188
<1> [16:23] * Merlin27 was kicked by _m_ (sorry, too much spam using this nick)
<0> well, that was the discussion the other night
<1> the whole IP
<0> that's a SINGLE IP address
<1> right
<0> very nice ban, IMO
<1> but that knocks that person out
<1> like, if the NICK were the concern
<1> he could ban the nick itself.
<0> whatever
<1> I get the point
<1> but, it doesn't seem to be working
<1> I've only seen people getting banned so far.
<0> agreed, wonder what got messed up
<0> the reges was supposed to be *[1-3][0-9]
<1> and the kick message should let them know why.
<0> too much spam from nick like this
<4> Okay


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