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<0> lol
<0> dude. be a man. don't sleep.
<0> get some bawls
<0> i should quit being a wuss and walk right out there into the rain without an umbrella
<1> and get sick :/
<0> any1 know of a free compression utility that unzips rar?
<2> on their website.. dl unrar.dll
<0> the dll is free?
<0> is winAce a virus?
<2> yea, comes with docs too
<2> no, winace is a compression tool too
<3> does bzip handle rars ( i forget)
<2> donno, but for rars is better to use the official dll :)
<0> they manage to make winAce look very much like a virus
<3> bye :)
<1> lol
<1> hm, is there any site that explains all the nuances of spreading code around multiple source files?
<3> what nuances?
<3> it's simple really
<1> well, how to deal with #defines, how to deal with one source calling a function in another, et cettera
<1> -t
<4> How to deal with #defines is easy. Don't have any.
<3> #define are the spawn of satan
<1> _m_, i'm basically dissecting an opengl example, but i want it to be seperated from the main source
<1> err sorry i meant #include's
<3> learn about hearder guards and hey presto done!
<3> and then ix in namespaces
<3> mix
<1> it's all more confusing due to my absolute lack of expirience with windows programming :D
<5> |Serpent it has nothing to do with windows programming
<5> it's the same everywhere
<3> and you want to write a 3d engine?
<5> i don't understand the problem though?
<5> heh
<1> no i mean, the opengl example creates a window etc
<5> yes, and?
<1> so i'm trying to seperate the code
<5> okay... ?
<1> bealtine, all in due time
<5> what's the problem?
<6> GLUT is your friend
<6> gets the crap out of the way quickly, so you can start on the more interesting stuff. Then when you're happy with that, you can replace all the window/input handling with something more flexible
<5> you want to learn how to declare functions and #include header files?
<1> no no that i know
<5> so what's the problem?
<1> and yeah i'm using glut
<6> then it really is nothing to do with windows
<6> GLUT is cross platform
<1> hmm, i don't know how to phrase it properly, i'll go tinker with it instead
<1> omg it works :D
<3> now whats a gpf?
<1> can i cheat and google before i answer? :D
<5> heh
<5> great, is the physics engine done?
<1> oh come on rdragon, you know i'm just learning
<5> ;)
<1> i don't deny being a clueless nub, do i? :D
<3> but you DO want to write a 3d graphics engine?
<1> sure, in due time, atm i'm doing arkanoid which includes all the things i need for my game
<3> uh ok
<3> now you've master .h files
<3> mastered .h
<5> hehe
<3> i'm an old cynic
<1> hey it's an achievement for me, damn i feel like i'm in special opympics :D
<5> yeah
<5> even if you win, you're still retarded
<1> hehe
<3> or even if you mater .h files you still can't "program"
<3> master
<1> it is more gratifying than sniping someone out of a chopper in bf2 i gotta grant it that
<3> just keep your sights on the realistic
<5> have you played Shadow of the Colossus (PS2) ?
<1> oh i very much am
<5> good game
<1> rdragon nope
<3> no point building a train engine out of lego
<1> playing act of war: high treason nowdays, amazing game
<1> and ofc eve-online, my mmorpg drug :/
<5> ah
<5> I started playing WoW again last week
<5> i'm sure it won't last long
<1> meh wow isn't nearly as good as eve online, there's no griefing in that game
<5> in eve?
<1> in wow
<5> you can grief a bit
<1> in eve there's hatemails and adrenaline
<5> oh
<1> yeah you can summon people underwater but what do they lose by dying? nothing
<1> in eve you can lose 3 years worth of work if you get ****ed over
<5> that's no good
<1> ofcourse it's good
<5> i'd call that a design flaw
<5> in fact, griefing itself means taking advantage of design flaws
<1> nope, i'd call it a game that makes you think twice before letting your best friend fly your uber expensive ship
<1> no rdragon, it's all about player interaction
<5> well, I look at it from the developer perspective ;)
<1> not long ago there was an article in pcgamer about my corporation, we did the biggest heist in mmorpg games ever :D
<5> a situation that can cause a customer to lose 3 years of work is an opportunity for an unhappy customer, and a cancelled subscription
<1> now that was a rush..
<7> Actually, you have to be quite an idiot to get so thoroughly screwed over in eve...
<7> You lose your ship and implants at the most, most of the time.
<5> ah, i'm not too familiar with it - only played for a few days
<1> dwork exactly, it's not an idiot-friendly game
<1> very harsh
<7> To lose "3 years worth of blah blah blah" you have to do it on purpose.
<1> dwork, or let someone play with your tech2 blueprints :D
<7> Quite a bad idea, again.
<1> at most i lost full implant sets which to me was uh, a month's work in my nub days
<7> There's a lot more griefing in WoW anyway.
<7> Just not as troublesome.
<1> but eve is heading the wrong way though.. there's a huge war machine that no one can stop and it's making itself an iwin button
<8> mmm
<8> Iwin button
<7> Flying that thing is just too expensive.
<5> heh
<1> flying heavy ***aults, dwork, is too bloody expensive ;/
<5> i win ;)
<7> If you let people blow you up, sure is.
<1> not much choice dwork, with interdictors introduced
<7> I rather like frigates better myself, too.
<1> oh i've flown frigates for 8 months, and i'm so glad i did
<1> teaches you tactics, which is the reason i haven't been podded for the last year
<8> 8 real months?
<1> yeah
<8> my god man, you need to get laid
<5> lol
<1> TechRaven, oh i do that, it's even funnier when my girlfriend cheers for me during fleet battles :D
<5> my ex was a bigger gamer than I am
<7> I haven't had played much in the last year, not enough time.
<1> my gf has only one design flaw - if it doesn't have elves she doesn't play it :/
<5> bleh
<5> i liked being a gnome warrior
<1> i was like "play starcraft with me", she's like "uh huh, no?"
<5> yeah, I did kill her a lot in RTS's though
<1> she once killed me in warcraft3, i felt dirty
<5> you are dirty
<1> :D
<5> shoot, my birthday is in a month :/
<1> hah, my birthday's in, hm, long time :/
<5> every time my birthday rolls around I realize how much I didn't accomplish in a year
<1> how old are you?
<5> 22
<1> hah
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