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<0> i prefer wtl...ymmv
<1> mh, I heard of WTL too.
<2> i prefer less abbreviations.
<2> wtlymmvwingui
<1> I have just google wtl and wingui, found that wtl is more popular.
<1> is there any channel related to WTL?
<3> MFC is probably more full-featured than WTL
<1> I have written my application in MFC way( about 60000 lines ), now want a complete rewrite.
<1> so ask for advice.
<0> http://sourceforge.net/projects/wtl/
<0> eh
<0> http://www.codeproject.com/wtl/wtl4mfc1.asp
<0> better
<1> I have seen many Windows C++ project based on MFC, such as eMule, Is there some projects based on WTL?
<4> Aldora25 infected
<5> good morning people



<6> gootentag
<6> jill_s infected
<7> with?
<0> dont be making up stuff
<6> sawry
<8> and i think you mean guten tag :P
<6> anyone here used qt for windows?
<9> Anyone knows any *.h like "clock.h" but in nanoseconds?
<6> how the hell do i get nmake to cooperate? it complains about some missing dll so cl.exe can't run.. how do i add stuff to my dll path?!
<6> [houston], hmm.. clock_gettime?
<9> KrispyKreme: in nanoseconds???
<6> yeah
<6> well, at least on unix systems it has that resolution
<8> um, i doubt the timer on your pc is going to be accurate to nanoseconds
<6> nnp, ever hear of the pentium's TSC?
<6> you can always do inline asm rdtsc instruction ;)
<9> KrispyKreme: thnks
<6> if clock_gettime doesn't work, try inline asm :)
<9> cool
<6> what is mingw compiler? does it ****?
<8> krispyKreme: actually no i havent. Its google time ;)
<6> yeah it seems to be a halfway decent gcc-based compiler for building native win32 apps.. doesn't rely on any M$ dlls..
<8> its used by dev-c++ as far as i remember
<6> ah.. so it can't **** THAT bad
<8> ha, indeed
<6> qt.. why do you mock me so?!
<6> so can anyoen tell me how the hell to make an app find a dll ? does windows have like someething similar to an LD_LIBRARY_PATH?!
<6> stupid windows
<6> DIE WINDOWS
<6> DIE
<6> you confusing illogical platform
<6> and your retarded backslashes
<10> KrispyKreme: do you know the dll name, some of them have a link in the registry and most of them sit under system32...
<10> which you can get with the "GetSystemDirectory()" API call...
<8> ever so slightly off topic but does anyone know how easy/difficult it is to get software developer-esque summer internships in the US?
<5> krispy you make me hungry :(
<5> i like dunkin donuts better though
<11> is there a STL hash?
<5> welcome back slackers
<12> Off to office
<6> jill_s, you like dunkin donuts better?!?! WHAT?!
<13> hello!
<5> yes DD is way better
<5> stupid KK ;)
<14> DD is certainly great
<5> peter!
<5> can you point me to a simple socket library/documentation for the URL deal. I'm debating implementing that instead of using wget if I have time before my cut off date
<5> i'm quite a bit further along than i expected
<5> so if it's easy enough to learn/implement, i'd like to get rid of needing to make a system call to run a program i can't really control :)
<14> there are two i know of: dtilib and asio
<14> asio is in the process of being included into boost
<5> ok that was my next question since date_time has made me a boost cheerleader :P
<15> maybe
<15> I'm not sure it's been formally accepted
<5> victor i was just saying if there is some socket library that would be roughly a day's worth of learning time i'd like to nix wget if i can
<5> bearing in mind i've never done anything with sockets ever
<14> it's undergoing a formal review from what google tells me, but i don't know the status; i don't keep up with the political aspects of boost
<5> ok i will scope it out
<5> i'm basically on my last step of parsing the index file to locate the pdf names
<5> i already have everything else fully working



<5> and i have 11-12 more days to my due date
<14> to man want to run ethereal on your system to capture the request and responst wget is doing to the whiteboard, so you can emulate it
<5> my new books come the 14th yes!
<5> ok peter will do
<14> to man = you might
<14> i have no idea how it came out that way
<5> yeah i didn't know wtf you were saying but i got the gist :P
<14> sometimes i start a sentence and decide on another, and don't properly delete all the words of the last sentence
<5> victor i ended up grabbing the josu, 2 meyer and strou books to start ;)
<5> peter: don't do it at the beginning of the sentence ok? if you do it in the middle i can ignore it more easily thxforyourcooperation
<5> i really want dunkin donuts right now
<5> but i have left over taco bell
<5> life is tough :(
<15> jill_s I've only done one or two small "toy" projects using sockets, so I'm not much help here
<5> fair enough basically i want to learn as much as possible during the time i get paid :P
<15> but it looks, so I'm told that asio WILL be accepted into boost after some more cleanup, so that's likely to be the one to learn
<5> ok cool :)
<5> after only playing with date_time for a day I want it to have my babies ;p
<16> Accessing a global static variable from within a cl*** member function doesn't appear to be able to modify the static global variable? Any reason for this?
<8> um, i havent been following what you(jill_s) have been saying but if you want to get to grips with sockets i recommend googling for "beejs network programming guide"
<5> ok thanks :)
<8> if thats not what your on about well i apologise :P
<8> np
<15> Valmer what's a global static variable?
<5> either way stuff to print and put in a binder makes me happy cause i can kill trees nnp ;)
<8> exactly, although you may have to print it out a few times as its not that long ;)
<16> a variable that is not within a cl*** but is outside of the cl***.
<16> C for instance uses global values in page scope all the time.
<0> page scope?
<15> "page" scope?
<0> are you making up your own terms?
<15> I think so
<5> oh can anyone tell me how you register a nick here? i'm used to /ns register and am otherwise irc retarded
<0> no nick registartion on undernet
<5> there is no way to do anything? like i could take victor's name if he's not here? how does the channel know to op
<0> you can have a username and login
<15> I talk to X
<17> you can register your ident, but it's not really useful
<5> beal: and then your nick is tied to that?
<17> no
<0> not your nick
<15> Valmer are you referring to just a global variable?
<17> nick is unrelated to ident / registration
<8> i may have asked this earlier (can't remember, i apologise if i did) but do any of you know how easy/difficult it is to get software developer summer internships in the US?
<0> Valmer : show some code that demos this "problem" ?
<14> nnp, are you at a university?
<14> when i interned three times with microsoft, there were several international interns, but they were definitely in the minority. i can't speak for the industry at large.
<18> how can i calculate days between a date format of 2004/12/03 & 2003/05/23 ?
<5> boost::date_time!
<18> :/
<5> don't :/ I'm a boost believer now
<5> why the :/ ?
<14> http://www.boost.org/doc/html/date_time.html
<5> peter did you see the kick *** pdf i found?
<5> 403 pages on date_time
<5> it made a wicked tree killing binder
<14> yikes
<14> http://www.boost.org/doc/html/date_time/examples.html#date_time.examples.dates_as_strings
<6> boost is for pussies
<5> date_duration dd = (d2-d1) would do what oyu want
<6> real men use inline asm
<5> i'm a girl thx
<6> a girl that knows c++?!
<6> can i marry you?
<19> no
<19> she's dating rdragon
<5> date d1 (year,month,day);
<6> is she?
<5> not anymore, we're just friends
<8> peterhu: yes, i am. Im a 2nd year computer science student at the moment. I wouldnt be going till next summer though so i'd be a third year then
<6> for reals?
<5> but no she's not up for grabs thx
<19> bah


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