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<0> you can't just join and take credit ;)
<1> heh - I already wondered by cvs diff didn't work... now I remember: I used svn for this project :)
<2> yes he can
<3> Run: I'd really like to have a client that automatically switches between those two.
<1> _m_: how do you mean that?
<3> You do: "foo update" and the client automatically uses svn or cvs.
<1> That isn't hard to write.
<3> For a few very simple commands it could be done in shell script.
<3> For other commands it's probably a bit tricky.
<4> btw, can subversion support the same sandbox being in more than one repository?
<3> I'm not sure what you mean.
<4> suppose I want to keep a copy here of boost
<3> You can 'include' external repositories.
<4> for when sourceforge goes offline
<2> build jam is in c for boost which is for c++
<2> am i missing something or is it ok to be amused



<4> so I want to be able to update boost from well, IU when they switch to subversion then save it here on one of our repositories
<4> for some insane reason subversion is written in C also
<1> _m_: Anyone, I think I'll just m***ively switch to subversion and forget about cvs all together. I now have one project in svn, until I can work with it well. Then I'll convert the rest.
<1> s/Anyone/Anyway/
<4> Run are you using cvs2svn to convert them? how's it going?
<1> no, didn't convert yet
<3> vawjrwrk: The SVN backend supports hotbackup. However, I don't know if you can access that from the SVN client.
<4> ok, so the one in subverson is a new one
<1> yes
<4> you must like it if you're going to move your stuff
<3> The hotbackup works without problems here. After the backup, you have a second working repository.
<4> my new webhosting commpany runs subversion if you wish to "install" it on your site
<3> Run: I didn't have any problems with SVN yet. However, the code base isn't very big here.
<1> vawjrwrk: I believe in innovation. If subversion was written to replace cvs, then I won't stop that by stubornly continuing to use cvs.
<4> _m_ the problem is that the boost repository will be at Indiana University, not here
<3> vawjrwrk: yeah, I understand that.
<4> and if we're going to be using boost commercially (and we're using subversion) it would make sense to have our boost updates in our subversion as well
<3> However, it's more likely we're able to convince IU to handout archives of the hotbackupped repository than to convince SF of anything similar.
<4> so the feature I wanted was the ablilty to update from IU and commit to local
<4> (also need to commit to IU occasionally as a developer)
<4> I'm puzzled that SF wants to stick w/ "original" CVS when CVSnt is so much better, and runs on *nix hardware too
<4> s/hardware/platforms
<4> hmmm, I'm looking at some code and wondering if this is actually useful try {.......}catch(...){throw;} does anyone see any point to this?
<5> they forced it on us in CS at school (java)
<3> hmm, no
<0> maybe if you need to somehow report the existence of an exception?
<3> perhaps for placing a breakpoint.
<4> well, it would allow one to put a breakpoint there, but I don't see any other utility
<5> kids who couldn't code just caught exceptions like crazy and faked output to trick the scripted grader
<6> vawAFKhome, if you do something more other than just rethrow, yeah
<5> it was amusing
<0> and if you have some tool to stack trace, you can report that
<4> but my debugger will stop on exceptions thrown if I ask it
<0> yeah
<3> It will likely stop for *all* exceptions then.
<4> it's old code, I should run annotate/blame on it...but it's still in VSS <sigh>
<0> thats what the debugger can do ;)
<3> You can break for certain types at that single location.
<4> true
<3> I think that usage would be worth a comment in the code.
<4> maybe I'll just remove the try/catch the function needs some updates anyhow
<5> i have no idea if i did this right
<5> but a bunch of stuff is scrolling away on the command prompt window
<5> and that makes me happy
<4> what are you trying to do?
<5> build the boost stuff i'm really not sure
<5> lol
<5> i downloaded stuff and am just kinda poking at the faq
<5> basically i just typed bjam "sTOOLS=vc-8_0" install
<4> the just starting section is the place to go, iirc, it's been ages
<5> and now its scrolling and doing stuff
<4> yeah, that's the command
<4> it should be compiling a lot of things
<5> wow cool
<5> i hope it works
<5> yes it is
<5> i hope i wasn't supposed to do this in a specific directory
<5> i was just doing my usual bullheaded try and pray it works approach ;)
<4> the root of where you unpacked the download



<5> yes
<5> that's where i ran it from
<4> it will create about 1/2gig of library files
<4> and I beleive the default install directory is c:\boost
<5> d:\boost\boost_1_33_1\ is where i ran it
<5> eh i put it on d
<5> gonna be a problem you think?
<4> I think the INSTALL directory is c:\boost
<4> no it doesn't matter where it's building from
<5> ah
<5> well nifty
<5> they could take out a lot of that stuff
<4> a lot of what stuff
<5> and say if you are a bit dense and have windows type this
<4> welll, they feel compelled to tell all the *nix users how to do it also
<7> emerge boost...and scene!
<5> well give the smart people a different page so they can gtfo my dummy instructions
<4> your ***umption that *nix are all smart is unwarranted
<7> thankfully the boost ebuild takes care of bjam
<4> what's ebuild?
<5> yeah for x86 there was a prebuilt bjam
<7> part of portage, the gentoo build system
<5> so i didn't have to build that
<5> seriously i typed one line
<5> of course i dunno what to do after this, but there is more coffee
<4> one of the nice things about using msvc w/ boost is that you don't have to worry about the library names
<4> jill|afk have you checked c:\boost to see if that's where it's putting the stuff?
<5> am i all set after this or is there tinkering in Vc++ that i need to do? (im not asking how to do it, just if it needs to be done)
<5> was about to now
<5> yessir
<5> 200mb and chugging
<4> a little tinkering to do
<5> ok
<4> do you know how to set environment variables?
<5> hmmm, don't think so.
<5> i've sorta been stuck in eclipse
<5> just got vc case i had an older vs and i noticed it was free :D
<5> free is jillapproved
<4> are you the only user of the machine you're using?
<5> yes unless my boss gets bored
<4> does he program?
<5> nope
<5> it could be argued that i don't really either ;)
<4> what OS you using?
<5> xp pro
<4> ok, right click on mycomputer and pick properties
<5> k
<4> select the advanced tab
<5> k
<5> yep i see it
<4> click environment variables
<5> yep
<4> we're going to add two variables
<5> okies
<4> so click on new
<5> system variables or current user variables
<5> i'm presuming sytem
<5> system*
<4> I alwasy do system so that anyone gets boost
<5> okies
<4> name = boost
<4> value = c:\bboost
<4> err, c:\boost
<4> sorry
<5> ok
<4> other one is name = boost_version
<4> value = 1_33_1 ***uming that's the one you downloaded
<5> yes
<5> done
<4> ok, go to vc2005
<4> menu tools-options
<5> do i need to close/reopen
<5> it was still open
<4> no, we're setting stuff up


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