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<0> the tinfoil hats
<1> ViPr - well ?
<2> Even if you just learn it and use it for your one project, now you have another skill incase you need it.
<3> ok i put findfirst into the help and the result that comes says mfc library reference
<0> are in control of the compiler
<4> SB__: you might enjoy using it if you like
<0> i pasted a link for you
<5> ViPr we don't give a ****
<2> exception, i don't use it :)
<2> exception, but i have learned some basics of it just because :)
<1> ViPr then you're not looking at FindFirstFile, which everyone has been telling you to look at
<5> it workd on goddamned DOS
<4> SB__ : I've learned more than the basics of it, and yet it ****s
<5> before billy boy ever had his wet dream about windows
<2> exception, why? What basis for that is there?
<1> ViPr if you can't use anything but MFC, why are you looking for a non-mfc solution?



<3> there is no help on findfirstfile it's findfirst
<1> geez
<0> Vipr : http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/fileio/fs/findfirstfile.asp
<4> SB__ : .net framework is a much better OO api for windows
<1> ViPr stop being uncredibly stupid and listen to what people are saying
<0> now go away
<3> because there must be some secret way of byp***ing mfc
<2> exception, but that doesn't make MFC bad
<2> that just says there are better alternatives
<4> MFC tries hard to be OO, but it fails
<6> very important personnalty retardness
<4> ViPr : the title of the help says MFC - but if you actually READ what it says, you'll see it requires windows.h - no MFC includes at all
<1> MFC isn't very good C++ either
<4> horrible
<2> rdragon, that i do not know about.
<2> exception, I'm not arguing, I'm just saying you should provide concrete reasons that prove your point :)
<4> SB__ : just google for "MFC ****s"
<1> alas, WinFX is on it's way, and then hopefully we can start forgetting about Win32 and MFC and all of that nonsense
<2> exception, that's not an unbiased source :)
<3> wait a minute there is a findfirstfile
<0> it'll be with you in your nightmares
<2> rdragon, only implimented on vista and beyond?
<1> SB__ I believe parts of it (like avalon) are being backported to xp
<3> why the hell does my help not have it?
<1> ViPr what does it matter?
<2> rdragon, i dunno what avalon is, sorry.
<1> ViPr what compiler are you using, anyway?
<4> ViPr : try www.msdn.com
<0> i pasted a link (twice) to it
<4> I'd guess - VS5
<0> calc .ae
<1> SB__ - http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvista/building/presentation/default.aspx
<3> ok from now on i'm not using the help built into my compiler
<1> ViPr what compiler are you using?
<1> my guess is vc6
<3> msvc++.net
<2> rdragon, thanks for digging for me.
<1> oh, what version?
<4> ViPr : please go into help->about, and check the version number
<4> well, .net
<1> .net isn't a number
<4> rdragon : it's at least 7
<4> not THAT bad
<3> 1.0?
<1> c-bot explain .ae
<7> is WinFX (and avalon) going to be part of .NET?
<7> and managed
<1> who stole c-bot?
<1> clsk yes, mostly
<8> hey guys
<8> trying to *** a constant int array inside a struct and is not letting me is that not possible?
<8> ****ign
<7> c-bot has been gone for quite a while.
<1> KBM you'll have to try and explain what "not letting me" means
<1> why do you people think we can magically see your code?
<3> i don't know what version number it is. there's multiple version numbers. please tell me where i can sign up for a finding-out-what-version-number-your-software-is course because people always have to bloody complicate computers for no reason
<8> struct c {
<8> const int iNumb[9]={1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9};
<8> bool bNumb[9];
<8> } kj;
<1> state your problem concisely and completely - that way we don't have to waste time asking questions to try and pry the information out of you



<8> the cosnt part
<1> ViPr you just go to Help > About and it should say something like "Visual Studio 200x Version x.xx"
<1> it's really not complicated, and has nothing to do with being a compiler
<1> it's not a compiler, anyway, it's an IDE
<1> im guessing you have version 7.0, 7.1, or 8.0
<1> 2002, 2003, and 2005 respectively
<1> the former 2 have '.net' in the product name
<8> icant do this inside a struct ? - const int iNumb[9]={1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9};??
<1> i don't see what the point of such an array is
<8> forget the point? -its it possible?
<1> but I think you may try making it static
<9> kmb you should be able to do it but you should do like this: const int iNumb[] = {...};
<1> i rarely work with raw arrays
<8> im trying to do a soduku project and thats how i'll check if there is a 1-9 inside the arrays
<1> huh?
<1> but the value is always "index + 1"
<3> ok if it's called Microsoft Development Environment that is 2002 version 7.0.9466
<1> so what's the point of having the array?
<6> whats the javadoc equivalent in C++ ?
<6> i mean how do i decribe me fonctions, etc
<4> toast : doxygen
<8> const int iNumb[]={1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9}; like that? -doesnt work
<6> heh i mean something u don't need to install
<10> ugh
<10> I wish my parents would figure out how to copy and paste links
<10> rather than using the, "e-mail this to a friend" option on websites.
<1> KBM like I said - try making it static. and initialize it at the definition
<8> ok
<9> rdragon you talk too much :))
<1> thanks
<9> KBM what it doesn't work, is there any error ?
<1> it does work
<1> he just did it wrong
<3> ok now which function do i need to tell if the file is a folder?
<2> using winsock for sockets is annoying
<1> annoying? there's not much to it
<1> connect, accept, send, recv...
<11> And there's definitely not much to it compared to *nix sockets.
<12> Kia Ora
<2> rdragon, all that extra sockaddr **** :(
<2> i just wanna say listen for me on this port
<13> the only kind of oddity is the need for a setup/cleanup function
<2> and have it wrapped up nicely lol
<1> DrkMatter it's pretty similar to berkeley sockets, unless you get into the async stuff
<2> looks like i can write my own wrapper for it thought
<11> I'm pretty sure there must already be good wrapper libraries out there that'd save you teh work.
<1> sockaddr_in addr; addr.sin_family = AF_INET; addr.sin_port = htons( port ); bind( ... ); listen( socket );
<14> you should use sockaddr_storage if you eventually want to support IPv6
<10> why is that Tamahome?
<14> Noidea: sockaddr_in isn't big enough for IPv6 addrs, but sockaddr_storage works for both v4 and v6 (and other protocol families)
<10> hmmm, interesting
<10> I know nothing about sockets
<10> they're evil, as far as I'm concerned
<10> all black magic
<13> especially the metric ones
<12> WooHoo
<10> yeah, stick to English damn it!
<12> metric is english
<13> my nuts don't come in millimeters
<10> no it's not
<10> The English stuck to the English system too
<14> if you give me a few minutes I'll pull up the article I had about PF independance
<10> for a long time anyway, don't know if they still do.
<12> yeah it is, and I don't care about yoru nuts
<12> England are metric now
<10> 1670
<10> Authorities give credit for originating the metric system to Gabriel Mouton, a French vicar, on about this date.
<12> and 300 years later, the world starts using it
<10> But, the English weren't first
<12> not by a long shot
<10> they held onto the English system for a long time.
<10> so, the metric system isn't English.
<15> they call it the 'imperial' system
<12> French . . . it would seem


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