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<0> my basic console apps in win32 give several 'no symbols loaded' errors
<0> when debugging
<1> they arent real errors
<0> thats true.. but the console window starts and disappears very quickly.. although i think that may be unrelated?
<1> unlikely
<0> i tried pressing shift+f5
<0> but it still does it
<1> put a cin (or some kind of pause) at the end of the app
<0> "The program '[1368] test.exe: Native' has exited with code 0 (0x0)."
<1> code 0 usually means a good run
<0> yes
<1> so the app exited "normally"
<1> therefore i seriously doubt you want to start debugging ntdll.dll
<0> what is the code to put a pause at the end of the app?
<0> i am only familiar with } at the moment :-p
<1> cin>>i; or some such



<0> hmm, same deal.
<2> geez, people STILL don't know how to run their console programs inside vs?
<2> GodsTyro what does shift-F5 supposedly do?
<2> and putting code at the end to pause is borderline criminal
<0> haha
<0> how do i stop my console window from disappearing so quickly?
<2> have you actually LOOKED at the menus in vs2005?
<2> like under debug
<0> yews
<2> the one that's called start witout debugging
<2> on MY version it tells me it's ctrl+F5
<2> but since you can configure your own system I can't speak to yours
<0> vawjr: is the stdafx.h library a replacement for iostream.h?
<2> huh?
<2> iostream.h was never part of STANDARD C++
<0> ah ok
<0> if i "start without debugging", my code doesnt compile? lol
<2> stdafx.h is where ms types generally put things to be in "precompiled headers"
<0> i see
<2> why should your code compile?
<2> have you changed it?
<0> it should execute, no?
<2> yes
<0> well, the code is fine but it does not execute when i 'start without debugging'
<2> I don't believe you
<0> the prompt says "press any key to continue..."
<2> then it's finished executing
<0> you would think
<0> hm
<2> hm ??
<0> yes, it worked :-) but what if i do want to debug?
<0> instead of just executing
<2> can't you read menus ?
<0> there are 'no symbols loaded' errors
<2> for the OS
<0> i ***ume there will be compiling errors on top of that if the code is flawed
<0> i see
<2> you're all over the map, what are you trying to do?
<0> i thought the symbol errors might be related to a broken debugger
<2> <sigh>
<0> but that is not the case, as you have proven :-)
<2> did you steal the program? if not, why would you think it was broken?
<0> my OS IS broken, apparently
<2> why?
<0> hence the symbol errors.
<2> geezus, you simpley don't get it
<2> most people don't debug the OS
<2> so MOST people don't want to waste the space having the symbols around
<0> right.. i didnt know WHAT symbol errors WERE
<0> i thought they were related to the software
<0> now i know!
<2> they WEREN'T errors either
<0> we learn things as we go
<0> so mr. know-it-all, explain to me why the console window does not remain on the screen after debugging (before executing)?
<2> are you always this much of an ***hole?
<2> or do you want someone else to do EVERYTHING for you just because you're spoiled
<0> it's a conceptual question, you're not doing anything for me other than being informative
<2> well, **** you too
<2> because you're sure not learning anything
<0> i happen to think that the only way to learn is to make mistakes and ask questions :-) obviously something you yourself experienced, but are too egotistical to admit
<2> you have NO ****ing idea what I'll admit



<2> you're just to ****ing lazy to do any research before you start whining
<3> OMG vawjr is going to confess on the main
<0> i was not whining, i was asking you a question :-) and i don't see why i deserve to be called an '***hole' for that
<2> and you NEVER did answer my question about "what is shift-F5" ??
<0> and its a valid question, as documented (to no avail) on cprogramming.com http://faq.cprogramming.com/cgi-bin/smartfaq.cgi?answer=1042856625&id=1043284385
<2> so, I'm supposed to believe that cprogramming.com is an authority?
<3> on c++
<2> the problem is that you know a little, and erroneously presume that you know enough to ask the right question.... that question is an almost meaningless question for an actual program
<3> So vawjr are you going to run for elections this time as well?
<2> IRR no
<3> Taking things slow now?
<2> all 3 of us were too sick last night/today to make it over to the state convention
<2> which is going on now, and for another 2 hours
<3> Is it necessary to attend to contest elections?
<4> elections ?
<4> where ?
<3> VaranG|aN just asking vawjr if he'll contest the next elections in the US.
<4> ah IC
<2> back....sorry had to go ***ist sick daughter
<2> IRR no not really, but we were picking candidates for the state elections today
<2> the only one I would have been interested in, and I really can't devote enough attention to ti this year would have been to run against Barbara Cubin for U.S. House of Representatives
<3> I see
<3> And you are a liberal I suppose?
<2> not by the normal definition used here in this country, no
<3> I see
<1> is GodsIdiot gone?
<2> dunno
<1> the one with the broken symbols :)
<2> seems to have left about 38 min ago
<1> heh oh well
<1> a little bit of knowledge (misused) can be very dangerous
<2> I think I told him that
<1> dinner was nice :)
<5> what was the dinner anyway :)
<6> potatoes
<1> spuds cabbage and bacon
<1> not
<5> in dinner eating potataes as a result of getin fat
<2> I prefer corned-beef to bacon in that meal
<7> I saw Screech live doing standup last night
<7> cool, huh?
<5> yeah beef in dinner with a good quality drinking is great
<7> anyone remember Screech, other than me?
<2> apparently not
<1> Screech and Chong ?
<7> Screech, from Saved By The Bell
<2> that was Cheech (Cheech Marin)
<7> Dustin Diamond is his real name.
<1> i know...bad pun
<8> screech and chong? lol
<8> yeah, I remember screech
<2> sholdn't that have then ben (very bad pun Screech & Chrong)
<1> "hey dave for a hunderd million dollahs what is your name"
<1> bob
<2> the "What is your name?" was always the 1st question on the 1st quiz my dad would give to his cl***es
<6> haha
<1> one of them is a voice in SpongeBob
<2> he said it would relieve the tension
<1> or one of those cheezy cartoons
<6> yep, he was right
<9> I had a teacher who asked "Who are you?" on his first quiz
<9> It did not relieve the tension
<1> did you win?
<9> lol
<1> harhar
<9> one person cheated and copied his neighbour's answer
<6> lol
<2> Quantum`` but in a philosophy or metaphysics cl*** that's not a gimme
<9> no this was when I was 13
<1> epistemology the study of getting drunk
<2> ah, well dad was teaching adults (mostly)
<9> ah
<9> ok


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