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<0> _m_: thankfully, I don't, so I don't worry too much about that
<1> :P
<2> error C3861: 'system': identifier not found
<0> and I see plenty of idiots using other OSes
<2> (im new in c++)
<1> eXisten: #include <cstdlib> std::system("whatever");
<2> done m
<0> I'm getting a sun ultra20, looks like
<0> this should be killer
<2> 'sh.exe': Loaded 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll', No symbols loaded. what is this?
<3> the clue is in the message
<2> to show a msg like pascal wirteln("Something"); in c++ what is the code ?
<4> *sigh*
<4> It's time to buy a book. We don't teach basic C++.
<4> std::cout << "But if you must know..." << std::endl;
<1> That would require #include <iostream> and #include <ostream>.



<3> <grin>
<1> As your book would teach you.
<1> calc koenig2
<5> koenig2 = "Accelerated C++: Practical Programming by Example", Andrew Koenig, Barbara Moo, Addison-Wesley, 2000. ISBN 0-201-70353-X.
<2> ok ok i will tell my faher to get me a book for c++ can you sujest me for Biginers plz?
<4> We just did.
<3> i bet the next thing will be " I cant afford a book"
<3> ahh too late
<2> koenig2 ?
<4> *sigh*
<4> "Accelerated C++: Practical Programming by Example", Andrew Koenig, Barbara Moo, Addison-Wesley, 2000. ISBN 0-201-70353-X.
<4> I removed the "confusing" stuff.
<1> you have
<1> to use
<1> short lines
<1> some people
<1> understand that better
<4> Is that
<4> why noidea
<4> type
<4> like this?
<1> likely
<3> "Acclrtd C++: Prctcl Prgrmmng by xmpl"
<4> types
<4> whatever
<2> ok stop ;p
<2> i get it
<3> i've removed all the confusing letters
<4> bealtine: Good idea. Have to use correct spelling.
<4> k thx
<6> acppppbx
<3> at least you might try reading this: http://cplus.about.com/od/beginnerctutorial/l/blcpptutorials.htm
<7> Off to office
<4> Bye-bye, snow.
<4> Now the sun's trying to come out.
<3> hello sunshine
<8> http://www.noidea128.org/sourcefiles/15918.html
<3> and?
<9> FIX IT bealtine !
<10> ei.. cnu ba d2 marunong mag VB???
<8> errors at the top
<3> frendly message
<9> CppIsWeird...
<9> we have no idea where 0x7c91302c corresponds to your code
<9> (not sure why you would think we could magically tell)
<8> me nither
<9> so, tell us
<3> use your debugger
<4> depends.exe
<4> Or that.
<4> This is why you step through code.
<4> IRC is an even less useful debugger than gdb.
<3> useless channel
<3> why cant you just spot the problem?
<4> mirc myapp.cpp > errors.txt
<4> That's how it ought to work, eh?
<9> fix.exe < myapp.cpp > myappfixed.cpp
<3> fix.exe == magic.exe
<11> hmm.. using std::copy produces a "warning C4996: 'std::_Copy_opt' was declared deprecated" in vc8...
<3> thats is does



<3> turn off all that deprecated crap
<4> There's a #define to remove that
<4> Though I don't recall it at the moment.
<3> #define _CRT_SECURE_NO_DEPRECATE
<11> i'd like to get warnings on deprecated stuff, but not when i'm using std::copy
<4> Well, it's deprecated by MS, not by the ISO.
<4> Rather presumptuous, if you ask me.
<11> which is obviously not deprecated.. they're implementation is i guess
<11> yeah
<9> yeah I really wouldn't worry about that stuff so much
<3> they've just replaced all the ordinary function with some concoction that ms made
<4> MS audited their source base and identified the library elements that got them in the most trouble, w/r/t buffer overruns and such.
<9> they just want you to use those "_s" functions
<4> Then they marked those elements as "deprecated" and forbade their use in MS code.
<9> too 'reactionary' of an approach for my tastes, but I can understand how it could help clean up junk code
<4> The biggest problem MS has is when some yahoo developer writes crappy code to run on Windows, and it opens a security hole, MS gets blamed.
<4> This is their response. Heavy-handed, yes, but I kind of understand it.
<3> anybody that writes strcpy() is an idiot
<4> Indeed.
<9> nod :)
<3> i fail to see how strcpy_s() fixes it tho:)
<4> I haven't looked at the implementation yet. I need to.
<11> hehe, and "Message: 'You have used a std:: construct that is not safe. See documentation on how to use the Safe Standard C++ Library'"
<9> well they p*** the destination buffer size, then it's 'guaranteed' not to overrun it
<9> since their code is flawed in ***uming the destination is big enough
<3> idiot coding strikes again :)
<9> (their being the junk coders)
<3> what std:: construct is that?
<1> Solamente: their biggest problem is that they wrote crappy interfaces.
<0> bealtine: "again?"
<0> That almost implies that idiot coding takes a break from striking
<2> ok know im done with the code working fine how can i make the .exe file?
<12> Hi all
<1> We don't know.
<12> =)
<1> We suggest you start reading the documentation.
<13> usually I just rename my .cpp to .exe
<12> _m_ maybe he is very young... and can't read =)
<3> always a good plan that rename thing
<2> ok i will try that one
<3> http://www.rense.com/general67/street.htm
<3> ffs
<13> bealtine, saves time...pesky compiling time could be used for other things
<4> I wonder how much Sony paid him.
<14> hello
<14> hello worms
<12> I need fast and if possible easy to realize algorithm to parse expressions. Expressions not very complicated, they can contain 6 operations (+ - / *, unary + and -), symbols '(' and ')' and variables (variables under C++ rules of variable naming)... What can you advice me? I've google enough already... to many theory. Now I'm thinking about Polish notation (like A B + ). Abyway I need advice =)
<12> and I'd evalute expression, after user defines unknown variables..
<14> can you use polish notation for worms?
<12> no, Lord. I can not
<11> this ****s.. i have to #define _CRT_SECURE_NO_DEPRECATE for each damn app i want to compile... :/
<4> Put it in your default project.
<11> default project? hmm, where's that?
<14> hey why did you kick me?
<4> Because you're annoying.
<14> no im not. i just like worms...
<12> =)
<11> Solamente, default project?
<14> hello
<4> YUY0x7: VS8 has a set of project defaults that you can (somehow) edit, or perhaps just hack directly in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\VCProjectDefaults
<4> I forget where the editor is.
<4> Earlier versions have template projects that you can hack.
<14> i use Visual Studio for werms.
<11> can you get to the editor within the IDE?
<4> I don't know. Poke around.
<4> Or wait for peterhu to show up, since he worked in that area of VS.
<11> alright, thanks
<14> how do you create werms using Djikstr'a algorithm?
<3> iirc View/Property manager
<9> werms ?
<3> thats kewl-ish for "worms"
<4> Now he's banging his head against my /msg blocker
<9> worms as in virus sorta things?
<3> i thought he would have turned you into one of his "werms"


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