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<0> there must be a difference hehe
<1> MrAshe not readily
<1> well, we could use xp64, yes
<2> You need more than ~3.25 GB?
<1> but if we're switching dev systems ->vs2005
<1> MrAshe yes, or will shortly
<2> For desktop applications?
<1> this isn't a desktop application
<2> But it must not be server either, from the look of it ;)
<2> Workstation-ish?
<1> MrAshe what you're looking it running on twin Xeons (one of 2 boxes) running at a hosting farm somewhere in Oregon
<1> twin dual core Xeons
<2> That's the machine, not the software
<2> By workstation-ish I mean software like VS, Photoshop, Maya, 3DStudio, etc
<2> And lab stuff
<1> we spend a LOT of time caching stuff that we think will be used near term
<1> I wanna just get rid of all the administrivia crap
<2> I guess I won't get an answer
<1> I don't know what kind of answer you want
<2> It was something complex like "what kind of application"
<1> sorry, I thought you'd gone to look at it, it's a medical database search engine
<2> Ah, the website over there
<2> So it's a server
<1> and the database is pushing 3Gb now
<1> yup
<2> Why would you run XP or Vista on that
<1> what would you run?
<2> If you want windows, Windows 2003..
<1> no, I want a HUGE address space
<2> So?
<1> and I don't wanna **** around
<2> Windows 2003 handles 64-bit
<1> only with some bull****
<2> ?
<1> and server2003-x64 isn't available that I've seen
<2> How come I have it
<1> don't know
<2> How come MS publishes updates for it
<2> Heheh
<2> You can even download a trial
<1> how the **** would I know...when I had a universal subscription (throught last june) it didn't exist
<1> or I would have installed it on this machine
<2> It's from dec 2005, iirc
<2> Windows 2003 R2 or something
<1> and since it looked (at the time) like they'd get around to server-x64 about the time Vista-x64 existed, I suggested we go to it instead
<2> Seems to be available as an update to 2k3
<1> I just got an email about that
<1> nope, that was VirtualServer2005 R2
<3> Linux? just kidding
<2> Heheh
<2> What database do you use btw?
<1> but since we're in a re-design of the database, the tools, and everything else, why not go with the latest stuff
<1> our own
<3> your own database software?
<2> Well, if you don't want to make it go live in the next few months, I guess waiting for Vista is fine
<2> I wouldn't put a server thing on a desktop OS though
<1> it's not very general purpose, it's for doing full-text searches and scoring relevance
<4> I wouldn't bank on future MS product X at all, if you have a deadline
<4> I'd put money on Vista slipping again
<1> of course
<1> Quantum`` we're trying to 2nd guess doctors/nurses who are tyring to figure out what's wrong w/ their patients
<4> though they might do a VS2005 and "launch" in Janurary. It'll just be impossible to actually get hold of until April/May
<4> without their overpriced MSDN subscriptions, anyway
<1> yeah, I had to give up my own subscription when all the discount resellers apparently vanished
<4> hmm. needed to blow up baloons for a party apparently. bbiab
<5> yeah, "balloons"
<5> http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyid=2006-04-06T120237Z_01_N05305044_RTRUKOC_0_US-FINANCE-STUDENTS.xml
<5> when you're a student living with mommy, you don't worry about any of that stuff
<5> that's a pretty stupid survey
<5> they should all p*** a few years after getting out on their own, however
<6> Hipgnosis?
<6> I haven't seen you here in a long time.
<7> been busy ni
<6> that's no excuse.
<7> true....
<8> jeez school teacher
<7> you do any work with the visual studio deployment stuff?
<2> IRR, try to get out of school before you're 40
<8> There is this iffy offer from Grenoble with a 1350 Euro stipend
<6> kind of, but the others here do a lot more.
<8> For doing practically nothing
<1> isn't that everyone's dream these days, to get paid to do nothing?
<7> not all of us want to be politicians vawjr
<8> vawjr well, and most people are getting paid that way
<8> http://www.inrialpes.fr/vasy/jobs/these_2006a.html << check this
<8> I'd love to spend 3 years doing nothing, and then copy/paste something from an obsecure paper, whose author died from drug overdose
<8> And exit with a Phd and wack MrAshe's tail
<2> And what would you do with your PhD?
<2> And 1350/month is nothing
<2> So you get paid nothing to do nothing
<2> That makes sense ;)
<8> Find a job that is respectable and pays me to do nothing
<9> that barely covers my rent :P
<8> Well I also have a scholarship of 900 E, so it adds up well
<7> ok - deploying a project under visual studio. I have a folder created in the file editor under Program Files. I want to take the resolved name of that folder (ie c:\program files\blah) and shove it in to a registry key. I can't seem to make the link between values though.
<8> 1350 after tax. Before tax its 1650
<2> That's still only 2250
<9> Hipgnosis what for? for installing the app?
<8> MrAshe its not bad
<2> Of course it is
<7> right dragon
<8> I can survive. I don't need to maintain 2 girlfriends
<9> Hipgnosis there is a setup project that you can create that does a lot of that stuff
<2> I bet even the indians we import get paid more
<2> And they also do nothing all day long
<2> Except use their phone to call India
<2> For free
<8> Hmm.. really?
<2> Heheh
<9> Hipgnosis you're not writing an installer, are you?
<7> yes on installer, and I'm using the standard vs deployment project
<8> There is a job offer from Luxembourg for 3500 Euro / month for a tester.
<8> Testers also do nothing all day. Should I consider it?
<2> Testers test, it's boring, and you feel like a whore
<8> I'll do boring stuff as long as there isn't much of it
<2> But you get next to no taxes in .lu
<2> Now of course nobody would hire you
<2> But that's another story
<8> why not?
<2> You're not ***y
<8> Yeah I am not
<2> So no job for you
<10> only ***y ppl get hired?
<8> :(
<10> this doesn't quite match with some of my collegues...
<9> Hipgnosis why do you need the full path to be stored in the registry?
<8> Why does Kombucha need to tell us that?
<7> because a stupid legacy component that I have to install requires it or it sits mindlessly in the corner and doesn't work
<9> ah, hm
<7> i'd expect there's some markup like [blah] or something to do the link when specifying the value, but I can't figure out what it is
<6> ?
<6> you're just trying to add an entry to the registry?
<6> oh, but not with C code
<7> yes, in the installer.
<6> you're using some weird installer script language?
<7> yeah, the default microsoft deployment project
<6> ahhh, nm, I've never used that before
<6> no clue how it works.
<11> Backing from away! Away for: 2mins 40secs
<7> yeah, ms's documentation on it is really sparse
<9> try [$InstallPath] or something
<9> it must be something like that
<9> here you go
<9> [ProgramFilesFolder][Manufacturer]\[ProductName]
<9> if you go to the file system
<9> right click on the Application Folder entry and hit Properties
<9> you'll see that there as the value
<9> and here is the property reference: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/msi/setup/property_reference.asp
<7> looking......but file side is fine, it's getting that file value into the registry that is the issue
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