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<0> Monkey-brain 8-bit arithmetic systems are the next revolution
<1> MrAshe: you work for mobistar?
<2> Nope, for Alcatel
<1> ah :)
<2> Want the HP contract number? ;)
<1> I'll be working on reintergrating Alcatel NSS R25.2
<1> what is HP providing to Alcatel?
<2> Support
<1> for?
<2> And Tru64
<2> And the hardware
<1> IT infrastructure?
<2> Just servers
<2> And the OS
<2> Now most customers choose Sun instead
<2> Mobistar has an old version
<1> It was Q3, now it's CORBA interface if i recall correctly
<1> but alcatel stuffs all their information in one field using their own format anyway
<1> MrAshe: what are you working on?
<2> The IN
<1> in full?
<2> Intelligent Network
<1> hm never heard of
<2> Basically it manages all the communications
<2> Credit for people
<2> 3G, etc
<1> the brain
<2> Mobistar has only 10 machines for it, iirc
<1> this is what i'm working on: http://www.hp.cz/services/integrace/pdf/telco/mobistar.pdf
<1> MrAshe: for a part, we're replacing the alcatel supervising software :)
<2> Must be part of a product other than the one I work on
<2> (not sure what you call supervising though)
<2> The only thing close to that is some processes that check CPU/memory/temperature/network
<1> the software that manages the hardware
<1> receiving alarms
<1> sending directives (switch on/off etc..)
<2> Why is it in Czech Republic anyway?
<1> TeMIP is a generic platform for that
<1> MrAshe: it's the only result i found in google
<1> Mobistar has the most advanced implementation of TeMIP
<1> it's used as reference in OSS (operation support systems)
<1> off to bed
<2> http://www.alcatel.com/products/productsummary.jhtml;jsessionid=ET1CZ5TUAP5GACTFR0GU1CYKMWHI23GC?relativePath=/com/en/appxml/opgproduct/alcatel8690openservicesplatformtcm228120231635.jhtml
<2> Now that's an ugly link hehe
<1> heh
<1> i told you that alcatel produces ugly stuff :)
<2> Yet that stuff runs in 95% of the phone providers ;)
<1> that site is really marketing-speak
<1> what's the alternative
<1> lucent? :)
<2> Lucent is now part of Alcatel
<1> i know
<1> that's why i added the smiley
<2> But it was the last one, yeah
<2> (last alternative, that is)
<2> Siemens is dead
<2> Nokia too
<1> there's Motorola and Nortel, but I suppose they are in other fields
<1> The Alcatel 8690 Open Services Platform (OSP) is an IT-based system providing comprehensive support for the rapid development and deployment of high-value services through which operators can generate additional revenue streams ahead of the competition.
<1> really
<1> what does this sentence say
<2> It says you can make custom services
<2> (quickly)
<1> It's a system that provides support for services that generate profit.
<1> hmm custom services..
<1> where do you read that :)
<1> you deduct it from the fact that they won't say which services? :)
<3> development = custom
<2> I deduce it from the fact I make that platform
<1> azr|el: ah indeed
<1> the article doesn't even mention which kind of services
<1> really gone now
<2> What kind of services do you think a mobile phone company runs?
<4> http://www.helpwinmybet.com/
<0> why is java so crappy, and why do crap people write more java crap to run on it?
<4> looks like that guy is on his way to win it
<2> Heheh Cowmoo
<0> ugh
<2> I should do that, but I already have a menage a 3
<4> heh
<2> Even if right now one's in Belgium, one in Paris and me in Nice
<2> (go figure)
<4> you're in Nice?
<4> bastard
<2> Yes
<2> Why?
<4> I'm here in stupid dull washington DC
<4> and you're mucking about in Nice
<2> Nice is stupid too
<4> what's the weather like there rightnow?
<2> Dark
<2> Since it's like midnight
<4> great
<2> But otherwise sunny and 15-20 C
<4> brr
<5> 60F is approximately 15C
<5> it got up to that just a bit ago
<6> Hello
<6> whats the difference between MFC DLL and ATL DLL ?
<0> They are different dlls
<6> for what purpose?
<4> brilliant.
<0> One is for MFC and the other is for ATL
<6> doh!
<6> lol
<6> can you be more specific?
<7> unlikely
<6> Hello peterhu
<8> ok, I'm starting to get tired now.
<2> Sleep
<8> not yet
<8> 2 more hours of work
<8> then climbing
<8> then dinner
<8> then shower
<8> then sleep.
<2> And, as usual, no ***
<8> no time for that.
<3> always time for lovemaking
<8> nah, I'd rather go climbing most nights.
<9> If I have this: In Somefile.cpp: const int someData[4] = { 0, 0, 0, 0 };
<9> in Somefile.h: extern const int someData[];
<9> In another file.cpp: #include "SomeFile.h" void Foo() { std::cout << someData[0];}
<9> I get unresolved externals... But I really don'T get what I'm doing wrong.
<2> You need the size
<2> For the extern
<9> Hm, jsut tried it, and I still get an unresolved external. =/
<2> Guess you're doing something wrong
<9> Yes, indeed. =P
<8> suicide
<8> it's your only hope
<9> I thought about converting to hinduism first.
<8> no, don't.
<8> If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all. Jacob Hornberger (1995)
<8> No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session. Mark Twain (1866)
<8> There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. Robert Heinlein
<8> A wise and frugal government which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government. Thomas Jefferson (1801)
<8> Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. James Bovard (1994)
<8> It is not the business of government to make men virtuous or religious, or to preserve the fool from the consequences of his own folly. Government should be repressive no further than is necessary to secure liberty by protecting the equal rights of each from aggression on the part of others, and the moment governmental prohibitions extend beyond this line they are in danger of defeating the very ends they are intended to serve. Henr
<2> Noidea
<2> Go work
<2> Or go home
<8> A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury. Alexander Tytler
<8> I'm working
<8> I'm running sims
<8> and no one is talking
<8> so I'm entertaining everyone.
<0> what
<0> It is not the business of government to make men virtuous << stupid
<0> So go shut down the schools and the jails then
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