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<0> asite
<0> anw theare is no **** file in the directory
<0> and i reinstalled dec-cpp
<1> asite what?
<0> "astie" greek wort
<2> vawjr for me nevermind
<2> word*
<0> grr is the beta version that y... i thing
<3> eXisten: Did you download the version that included minGW, at least?
<0> minGW ?? no
<0> were can i find this one?
<1> Directory of C:\Dev-Cpp\bin
<1> 2005-01-29 15:38 1,069,568 make.exe
<1> 2005-01-29 15:38 1,069,568 mingw32-make.exe
<0> in bin i find only this rm.exe
<1> I've got 32 files



<1> where did you get your download from?
<0> don't remeber
<1> try here for free stuff ... http://www.thefreecountry.com/compilers/cpp.shtml
<1> there should be a link somewhere on that page
<0> i will try it i will get the visual studio 2005 in a few days
<1> why a few days?
<0> coz the one have it is on army right now
<3> I have doubts eXisten is planning on acquiring VS2005 the legal way.
<3> eXisten: You can get a free version of Visual C++ 2005 *Express version) off Microsoft's site.
<0> anw thnx if i need help i tell ya
<4> hi i am a newcomer interested in learning c++,can i post a few questions here
<2> can i get some compilers free ?
<1> try here for free stuff ... http://www.thefreecountry.com/compilers/cpp.shtml
<3> NeoSpykar: The topic is quite clear on that subject.
<4> drk matter i did not understand
<4> i asked the question because i was a beginner and did not want to offend the group by asking basic questions
<4> like what language to learn before c++.....
<5> why would you want to learn a language before c++
<5> it wont make you better at c++ :)
<4> i head people say that if you read the boook by kerninghan and ritche on c it helps improve your programming style
<6> Well, I've read that book, and we all know I ****
<6> If there's any gain to be had, it's marginal and very high level
<4> that you can write succint code,i am unsure as to what to do,i did learn the syntax at my university but not the language and i am not happy about what i learnt
<6> Sort of the equivalent of jumping in to an olympic level tennis training camp the day after you first see a tennis racket
<6> Except, K&R is by no means an olympic level training camp, particularly on C++.
<6> If you want to learn the language well, vawjr has a list of books he recommends.
<6> Stroustrup's book is probably the definitive guide to the language as it's meant to be.
<6> But thats a tough read and not for idle readers or newbies
<1> no, the stanadard is the definitive guide
<6> http://www.rudbek.com/books.html
<4> yes i have been reading that and it is a good book
<1> NeoSpykar which one you been reading?
<4> the c programming language third edition by Bjarne
<4> the c++
<4> i mean
<4> it was a typo
<1> probably not the easiest book to learn the language from
<1> notice how far down it is on my list
<5> vawjr: which version of the standard? ;)
<4> i am used to the syntax in my university and did create code
<4> but i am not happy
<4> sorry i am a newbie,i do not know the standard the book confirms to
<1> unless you're going to the University of Seoul, I haven't heard of a course offered anywher that does a good job of teaching C++
<7> what's special about Seoul
<6> Heh
<1> we had a student form there on one night and he posted the syllabus, it looks pretty good (follows pretty much the order that Koenig & Moo use)
<7> ah'
<1> everyone else want's to teach the subset that looks like C first
<4> o.k
<1> and they get to the library (if at all) for the last week
<4> can you suggest small programs that you guys wrote so that i can compare the way you guys write code and the way i write code,which will help me write better code
<5> in the hope we program small programs well ;)
<4> i really dont want to write c style code in c++,but i might be tempted to
<1> NeoSpykar why?
<1> thought C++ is "a better C"
<4> done only c programming till now
<1> then I suggest you get the books on my list
<4> o.k, the aim of me reading c++ is to someday understand Multi Paradigm Design in C++
<8> C++ stardet as a "better C", then got swallowed alive by the dragons of complexity
<8> started*
<4> by Jim Coplien



<4> i did not seek that book in your list vawjr
<1> well, either I haven't read it, or I didn't like it
<4> that is supposed to be a very good in c++
<4> and i heard andrew tannen baum wrote that the book was so good but he was himself not able to follow it
<1> NeoSpykar Alexandrescu's book will pretty well cover the "generic" paradigm...with some nice new twists
<4> (wrote i am not a big fan of MINIX)
<1> I didn't know that Andrew wrote anything regarding C++
<4> that is nice,but i heard that Multi Paradign Design is the Killer thing in C++
<4> didnt mean to offend anyone here,pls tell me if i am carrying this toofar
<4> Paradigm*
<4> anyone out here has read hat Book
<4> that*
<1> NeoSpykar C++ is at least 3 paradigms that I'm familiar with
<4> Procedural,OOP,Generic
<1> no book by that title at Amazon
<4> it is out of print
<4> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0201824671/002-9272893-4386460?v=glance&n=283155
<4> here is the amazon link "http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0201824671/002-9272893-4386460?v=glance&n=283155";
<4> Editorial Reviews
<4> Ian Bruntlett, Overload
<4> "Highly Recommended: This book provides readers with an informal, pragmatic approach to software development. It was well worth studying and has proved enlightening...This is a good book that should be read by intermediate to advanced C++ developers. If you don't have time to read it, then at least have a quick look through. You're bound to find a chapter that attracts your attention and enlightens you."
<4> Angelika Langer and Klaus Kreft, The Development Exchange
<4> "Jim Coplien is a recognized authority in several areas of software development: C++ programming, the object paradigm, patterns, and the organizational aspects of software development projects. His latest book combines his knowledge of all these topics... The book excels because of the author's broad knowledge... Multi-Paradigm Design in C++ is a great book crammed with elaborate and compelling ideas. Reading it will change your percept
<4> ion of software development. "
<1> NeoSpykar that was written just about the time the standard was released
<4> i believe there are no other books on multi paradigm design in c++
<4> (Dont get me wrong i like Modern C++ Design by Alexanderscu)
<4> But i was couldnt get him at all
<1> well, maybe when I finish the books I have I'll give it a read (maybe it will be up to date enough)
<4> it is about multi paradigm design(no feature of c++ 0X is included)
<9> hi !!!
<1> I was wondering if an of c++(98) was
<9> anyone know about symbian programming ???
<9> or CDMA BREW programming ??
<4> yes, it is all about design and people who read both Alesanderscus book and this rated this higher
<4> (i love multiple inheritance and templaes....this is just for better design)
<4> templates*
<4> bye!
<10> test
<1> 5 x 5
<11> test failed: /*eof transmission*/
<11> :)
<9> anyone know about symbian programming ???
<9> or CDMA BREW programming ??
<12> no
<3> I'm afraid I had never even heard of symbian programming before a few seconds ago.
<1> Symbian is an OS that's common in cell phones
<3> Yeah, I just googled it. =)
<9> yes...symbian is a mobile language !!!!
<9> DrkMatter , you know about epoc emulator ???
<13> And it has what to do with C++?
<13> If you have a question, just ask it.
<9> i need know if is possible with my webcam, debugging camera application using image frames from my CAM and no a record video playing by emulator..
<13> We have no idea.
<9> is possible ou no ?? use my webcam to send images in EPOC emulator ??
<13> You're better off asking in a forum specific to mobile development.
<3> I'm pretty sure anything'spossible if you put in the time and ressources, MMi.
<9> i am using Nokia_6600_Camera_Plugin..
<3> Well, you should probably read the documentation for that, then.
<14> hello
<3> Hey.
<14> how add colors in my C file ?
<15> Print it, then use a pen
<1> or crayon
<3> Paint and brushes, perhaps?
<1> "they" won't let me play with pens.... too sharp
<1> or so "they" say
<14> :|
<14> is fun?
<3> Relampago: My guess is that you'Re looking for another text editor.
<14> what u recommend?
<3> Find one with syntax highlighting.


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