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<0> reed: he discriminates too, i pray for riches and porn, all i find pay-porn sites :/
<1> peterhu I am suggesting a small experiment
<1> And you are not even willing to do that
<2> |Serpent_: hah
<3> i prayed, and god told me you're full of ****
<4> praying requires belief: catch 22
<3> now what
<5> wait
<1> You can pray for guidance
<6> there have been studies that show that prayer "helps
<5> it was in the news recently
<6> " sick people
<5> no
<3> yeah, i read that noidea
<4> they've been well debunked too
<5> the study in the news recently shows it doesn't help
<0> IRR, prayer will not work for him, mmkay? it's not about the ritual it's about the intention
<3> including the most recent
<5> and in fact, it actually HURT
<3> 1800 participants
<6> reference please
<0> i find it funny though, i'm very anti-religious, but this discussion makes it rather hard not to defend certain aspects of them
<5> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/health/31pray.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
<6> since the one I read was on the order of the same number of participants
<3> |Serpent_: out of pity?
<6> well, that's certianly more recent than the one I read
<0> peterhu, no, just the way i see the world
<0> peterhu, i do not believe that we can prove that god(s) exist(s) or doesn't/don't exist
<3> neither do i
<4> the bottom line is religion is a private thing and that where it should stay
<1> And non believers are also scared usually because they think that a belief will usurp their liberties and individual freedom.
<6> maybe Christ would visit peter and tell him "I don't exist."
<3> vic, i woudl LOVE that
<0> but i believe that a thought can influence our perception therefor influencing our world as a whole, a belief, a thought, a prayer too.
<4> emperical evidence...bingo!
<4> religion is like chasing ghosts
<4> you never actually find one
<1> Hehe.. you don't want to end this discussion do you?
<0> certain historical events, by the way, show that groups of people "suffering from m***ive hallucinations" can do amazing things
<1> Its like being in a dark room and repeating "I am not afraid. I am not afraid."
<3> doh what'd i miss
<4> the usual :)
<3> did jesus show up?
<3> i bet he did, just my luck
<6> yeah, said to tell you he doesn't exist
<4> and players for Man Utd
<0> IRR, repeating "i am not afraid" is like saying "i am afraid, and i **** at life too"
<6> now, if you guys want to read a mind-numbing tome, get yourselfs a copy fo "The Book of Urantia"
<1> peterhu will be angrier and more unhappy after this discussion then he was before it started
<4> jesus saves and Pele scores on the rebound
<0> peterhu, jesus was actually here and looked for you
<6> and then try to read it
<3> i'm not angry
<1> peterhu but you are hollow
<3> you mistake my fevor for refuting idiotic ***ertions as anger
<1> In your heart
<3> i can understand that
<3> hollow, how?
<1> Now you are denying
<3> i'm pretty sure it's filled with blood
<3> and water
<4> you have got your yearly topup of god stuff
<4> havent
<3> denying?
<3> good god man, make some sense please
<1> Denying existance of God
<0> peterhu: [23:50] * jesus (~sonofgod@777-777-.heaven.sky.hvn) Quit (Quit: just my luck...)
<0> :/
<3> it's like talking to a less articulate JBlitzen
<4> actually he isnt denying
<0> errr
<3> heh
<0> i should've removed that -
<0> :/
<4> he's asking for proof
<3> i can't deny it
<1> Did you even consider my proposition?
<4> all he gets in response are wishywashy goedel loops
<3> could you sum up your position for me?
<1> proposition, not position
<3> sorry, misread
<3> which proposition was that
<1> Proposition: Ask "God if you exist, please guide me"
<0> but tbh, god is a woman and she's insane, her name is eris too :/
<1> It'll be settled one way or the other
<3> i told you, he responding, and specifically made a point of how wrong you are in every believe you have
<3> responded
<1> If you don't get evidence, atleast you tried
<3> blief
<3> belief
<1> So you'll have an argument in the afterlife
<3> it is really hard to type like this without feedback
<4> and that is the crux
<4> if you are good you'll do ok in the afterlife
<4> gods insurance plan
<6> interesting choice of word, bealtine
<1> not a bad plan
<3> more like the guy who came up with the rule's insurance plan
<4> just buy it in installments
<3> i'd love to know why god cares one way or the other
<7> hmph
<4> w00t!
<7> hi.
<4> i believe
<7> what, you think i couldn't see? you bunch of infidels
<7> you made me emo now :/
<6> peterhu have you any children?
<3> nope
<4> i see the light...now send me money and your daughters to build a new church
<7> i'll just go flood the earth again then, kthx g'bye. :/
<6> can't do that _God_ we have a covenant
<7> wha?
<7> you speak against the word of god?
<6> you can't flood the earth again, you promised, and gave us the rainbow as a sign of the covenant
<3> and a white bird
<7> i'm god mmkay? i can do whatever i want, i lie too k?
<6> no
<4> oh well time for some real life ...
<4> as my favourite comedian always used to sign off with "May YOUR god go with you"
<3> ironically, that's about as much evidence we have on the subject
<7> btw jesus is still mad you're all framing him for creating christianity, he's real pissed!
<6> since one of YOUR commandments is "thou shalt not bear false witness"
<7> yeah but that was for you!
<7> not for me
<3> i thought moses wrote those
<4> wtf could he speak english anyway
<7> i don't follow no stinkin commandments
<4> couldnt
<4> thou shalt
<7> ani gam yachol lidaber ivrit, nu az?
<3> and why is god commanding us to do anything
<6> peterhu nope, inscribed on the tablets by God
<7> that was hebrew btw
<4> not covet they neighbours wife
<3> what kind of science experiment is this?!
<3> create us, then command us?
<3> but give us free will?
<3> fun for all ages!
<7> peterhu i was just bored!
<7> i didn't think you'd all survive, i mean damn
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