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<0> I would strongly recommend my current AI book for the course I'm doing because it's reasonably engaging and gives you enough of an overview of pretty much everything that you know what to look for afterwards.
<0> http://aima.cs.berkeley.edu/
<0> there's textbook's webpage.
<1> youre at Cal Berkeley?
<0> nope.
<1> name of the book looks familiar,
<1> whats good/bad about this book?
<1> is it for beginners?
<0> it isn't about "programming" in the traditional sense of the word. it's about the algorithms used.
<0> I think my dad could probably understand most of it, and he's never written a computer program in his life.
<2> bronaugh: Ain't nobody wanna hear about what your dad can do
<0> Nonongo: he's a good example of the educated but not terribly computer literate person, so I like using him as an example.
<1> nice website, just what i wanted bronaugh
<2> bronaugh: Guess I overreacted, mybad
<0> hah
<1> lol
<1> there is one other AI book that you could tell me if it's bad or not
<0> I probably know, but I can give you false and misleading impressions instead if you like.
<0> I probably won't know rather.
<1> AI Application Programming
<1> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1584504218/sr=1-1/qid=1144173340/ref=sr_1_1/103-2521247-2583845?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=books
<1> that one
<0> usually anything that focuses on application programming is worthless.
<3> Most tech books are worthless
<3> Actually, most books are
<4> Actually the whole point of writing stuff down is moot
<3> Then again being in uni all your life is worthless too
<4> Its useless for humans to have oral and auditary skills
<2> ashe: sour grapes
<5> humans are useless by default, why all the expectations?
<4> MrAshe yeah for you maybe, because they don't allow you to download porn
<3> What about blowjobs, IRR?
<3> IRR: I'm not in uni, IRR
<4> What happened to your op status btw?
<5> uh huh, IRR, undernet has that option you know, to turn auto-opping off
<3> And then you can just remove it yourself anyway
<5> yea that works too
<3> But in this case it's just cause other ops decided I was not helpful enough to be op
<4> I thought you got de-oped (referring to conversation with [m]aniac above)
<6> speaking of porn, farthammer was bought out by bangbros :(
<5> ages since i had any access anywhere on undernet though, but IRR you can check people's access
<4> Well in my opinion MrAshe should stay op
<3> Which conversation with [m]aniac?
<4> * MrAshe is away: peterkhan blows
<4> * _m_ sets mode: +b *!*@ashe.users.undernet.org
<4> * MrAshe was kicked by _m_ (no away messages)
<4> with _m_
<3> It's a script, he bans anyone who's not +o
<4> hehe
<6> guess the better question is wtf is my p*** on X
<5> ashe, if you weren't helpful i'd still be way backwards on game development
<7> http://cservice.undernet.org/
<6> sweet
<8> For both new p***words and access lists in channels
<8> (And registering new channels)
<3> |Serpent_: you still are
<4> Rat
<1> ok so bronaugh you say no AI programming books, just theory>?
<3> And /msg x access #channel is faster than their dumb site
<5> MrAshe, i'm backwards on coding, but i atleast understand a lot more of it than i id before
<6> dammit, I don't even remember my login name
<3> PfloydWork: www.generation5.org
<5> id/did
<8> but doesn't give you a list of all users
<8> which the web interface will, IIRC
<3> Asriel: it does
<5> btw cservice site ****s, i cant reg myself using a gmail acc :?
<5> :/
<8> Ah, with a wildcard
<8> neat
<3> ?
<3> No, not with wildcard
<3> Just /msg x access #c++
<8> that gives me a syntax aerror
<3> Rah
<6> that yields the syntax
<3> I typed it for real
<3> Instead of in the channel
<3> /msg x access #c++ -min 0 -max 500
<3> There
<8> I just did x access #c++ *
<8> which gives much the same effect
<5> heh
<8> oh, but limits to 15 users
<6> hey someone tell me my user name :P
<3> Just use -min 0 -max 50 then ;)
<8> impatient - If it's on the op list, just use the web interface or ashes sekrit method
<8> and use that to jog your memory
<3> patient0
<5> ghm, i wonder if there's any free email site not listed on cservice..
<3> [20:09.38] -X- Removed user patient0 from #c++
<3> Bahahahahahahahaha
<3> Ahem
<6> awesome
<8> just get a real email account
<8> free email accounts are cheap and tacky
<5> Asriel, i just can't be arsed to call my isp and make em reset my email p***word, since i use my gmail box exclusively anyway
<3> Just get a domain and use it for e-mail
<5> let's ***ume i have no money nor income :)
<6> ****ed up they would take my ops
<6> considering I'm here 4 hours a month
<3> I just took it
<6> odd you can do that without having ops yourself
<8> you can do anything through
<8> x
<8> kick, ban, channel management
<6> I was under the impression ashe no longer had +o
<6> or was that misinformation
<8> L400 still :)
<8> he's just being...ashe
<6> ahh
<6> typical :D
<6> this is awesome
<6> apparently I registered myself using an old email account
<6> so my new p***word is now part of the 'ether'
<1> hi asriel
<1> omg been so long
<8> well, create a new user and I'll create you another account in here. can't do anything about other channels
<8> without employing teh L33T HAXOR SKILLZ. Which I don't tend to do these days
<8> heya Pfloyd :)
<6> eh its not that important
<6> thanks for the offer tho
<8> nearly always some +o awake to deal with retards. _m_'s scripts tend to fend off the spambots as well, so we're pretty set
<4> I was thinking maybe the regulars on this channel can get together on some project.
<3> impatient: he was just kidding, he'd have said something like "'k sorry got something urgent to do, brb" when you'd have told him your username
<4> With so much talent maybe something good will come out.
<8> a few of us are working towards an on again/off again C++/CLI wiki
<1> I'm trying to find a beginner AI book and I heard from bronaugh that I should be looking into a Theory book and not book with programming examples
<3> IRR: it'd collapse after about 15 seconds
<8> mostly off again at the moment. everyones busy :)
<4> MrAshe why so?
<3> Arguments, fights
<3> Over what to do and how
<4> You could ***ign roles and not dispute their authority
<4> btw has anyone checked this out: www.limnor.com/
<3> You could, but you wouldn't
<3> sounds indian
<4> canadian
<3> And looks ugly
<4> why?
<3> (I'm talking about the website)
<9> heh, had to get our setup guy to help me out with an installer failure
<9> found three bugs in the process
<9> i pity people that do setup
<9> what a horrible thing that can be
<4> I once did a setup
<3> I doubleclick setup.exe's quite often, does that count?
<4> MrAshe thats what I meant
<10> MrAshe: don't you have a setup guy to do that?
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