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<0> like macro ?
<1> erm?
<2> like... visual studio maybe?
<1> what software are you using to create the program
<1> ?
<2> or notepad?
<0> yes i microsoft visual studio 6.0
<1> for a new coder you've got some awfully old software
<1> what would bring you to buy that old one?
<3> calc vc2005e
<4> vc2005e = Visual C++ 2005 Express (aka VC++ 8). Available for download at - http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualc/ . Get the Tools Refresh at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=afd04ff1-9d16-439a-9a5e-e13eb0341923&displaylang=en
<1> yeah, the new ones (well the Express editions) are free
<0> my teacher gave me the cd to install vb and i also install c++
<1> ah
<1> I suppose that's a bad foreshadowing of the kind of C++ that will be taught
<0> maybe :)
<0> btw whats the diference in c and c++ ?
<2> Erag0n - visual studio 6.0 was released in 1998... that's a long time ago ;)
<5> i need a debugger.
<3> c++ is a better version of c
<5> bealtine : arguably
<2> i wouldn't even like calling it a 'version' of C
<3> you argue
<3> i just state facts
<0> but now how is possible to compile that ?
<2> to compile what?
<3> rename file to .cpp
<2> Erag0n if you want to learn C++, you need to pick up a book: http://www.rudbek.com/books.html
<1> I would disagree with C++ is a better C -- it's a completely different language (it just happens to bring C along as a sidekick)
<2> you're wasting your time learning VB6 - nobody serious uses it anymore
<3> they are differnt now...but they are much closer cousins than c and say pascal
<2> they share an ancestor, sure
<6> Stroustrup makes a good point when he calls standard C and standard C++ siblings.
<6> C++ came from pre-standard K&R C.
<5> and that's not true.
<5> vb6 is still in use. all over.
<1> well yes, they're very similar :)
<5> although it would make more sense to do .net now.
<6> And when you compare C++ and C99, there's quite a large divergence.
<1> in some repsects, anyway
<1> right
<1> well wasn't C++ originally a preprocessor hack?
<6> He has a paper on his site. A worthwhile read.
<6> I wouldn't call it a hack.
<6> But it was a pre-processor.
<2> Cpre, it was called
<3> cfront
<5> i need a debugger :'(
<2> er, hm
<1> for what platform?
<6> Unix
<6> Oh, NineVolt_
<5> wintel
<2> Cfront was the first C++ compiler
<5> i got the free vc++ compiler and linker...
<2> Cpre understood "C with Cl***es", and was just a preprocessor
<6> NineVolt_: Which version?
<1> gdb runs on Windows, I don't know if MS Debugger comes with the express IDE/Compiler
<6> 2005 Express has a debugger.
<3> vce comes with a debugger
<5> not express.
<0> lol , i just try to make the <<program>> hello world and it just apear in ms-dos , this is what should happened ?
<1> guess that answers that heheh
<6> Erag0n: No, it didn't appear in MS-DOS.
<5> .net is the bane of my existence.
<6> It appeared in a Windows console.
<6> That's a completely different thing.
<2> if I had a dime... heh
<0> Solamente no no
<6> Erag0n yes yes
<5> no?
<5> it wiped windows off your computer, installed dos, and ran there?
<0> Solamente i just execute the file
<2> Erag0n I highly doubt you're running DOS
<6> Erag0n: I know.
<0> the .exe
<6> And there's no DOS involved
<6> It's a console program.
<6> Does it have a std::cout in it somewhere?
<0> ah ok , thank you for telling me that
<5> standard console output?
<5> :P
<1> all the DOS support is emulated in modern Windows OSs, but the progrtam you made isn't a DOS program at all, it's pure win32
<5> i mean standard DOS output? :P
<6> Comes with the new beta SDK.
<6> Pretty slick
<2> ms shell?
<1> I've heard the new shell is object oriented
<0> c++ for dummies , is it a good book ?
<2> Erag0n No.
<6> Erag0n: "Accelerated C++" by Koenig & MOo
<2> you don't want to be a dummy, do you?
<6> Moo, rather
<6> That's the book you want.
<6> THE tutorial.
<0> ofcourse not , but accelerated c++ looks very advanced
<6> Geez
<6> No
<6> It starts from the ground floor.
<2> don't judge a book by its cover?
<1> don't be confused by the title heheh
<6> It doesn't say "Advanced C++." It say "Accelerated C++".
<6> As in, you'll be producing useful programs much more quickly than from some dummies book.
<2> Erag0n - Accelerated C++ is essentially the only book we recommend for beginners to start with
<0> ok , i ll try
<2> that's the spirit, heh
<7> hi guys
<7> any pascal programmers here, msg me
<3> #delphi
<6> Drat. The Meijer scale is going to arrive today, which means I have to (*gasp*) go to the office.
<0> i must go , c ya .
<3> meijer scale?
<7> hey guys, we are all on the same side
<7> lets not have these chinese walls between teams
<0> :)
<6> _Simon: And let's not wander into rooms asking for messages about unrelated topics. You'll almost always get kicked.
<7> I was not trying to intimidate any C programers by talking about Pascal
<6> I don't give a rip what you were talking about. That's a bad practice.
<1> mata e o vaca
<7> Solamente, Pascal is not unrelated to C++. If you knew your programing history you'd know why :)
<2> it must be morning
<3> the idiot quotient in this channel is getting very high
<8> hey, I can't help it
<9> I have problem!!!!!!!
<8> we can tell
<2> N^L^O - then calm down and ask
<1> it's called an "oedipus complex"
<4> we have answer!!!!111 you may not like!!!!111oneone
<9> c++ programing on borland 5.0
<1> sounds like a problem to me
<10> Beer!!!!!!!!!!
<11> hello
<12> wasap Andrusha ehehe ;)
<11> got a problem hope somebody could help me a little3
<11> :)
<11> 3
<2> Andrusha just ask
<11> when connecting to TClientServer getting the error "Asynchronous socket error 10061"
<11> how to make this don't appear?
<2> fix the problem, i guess
<2> why don't you look up what that error means on google or something?
<11> the problem is becouse the server is off
<2> then there's either a problem on the server end, or some connection properties are wrong
<11> the error is becouse the server is off and if connect failed getting the error
<2> or there's a router preventing the connection or some such thing
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