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<0> and some of us like to discuss c++ without a strict teacher/student relationship
<1> Erag0n he's been here for weeks stuck in the same spot, and refuses to follow advice
<2> corstan: Think of the people in this channel as benevolent overlords. =P
<3> starting to
<4> corstan get a book , or search for tutorials in internet there are many of them , some usfull some useless
<1> most/all useless
<1> don't bother with the web, except for very specific topics
<1> but certainly not for 'learning C++'
<5> hi , excuse me , wat's the difference between c++ 6.0 and the .net framework
<4> why not ?
<2> Charmed: Visual C++ 6.0 is an IDE. The .Net framework is a framework.
<1> Erag0n we haven't found any that aren't terrible... except one (dont have the link handy)
<6> Anybody use Eclipse/CDT as their IDE?
<7> to make things more confusing, visual c++ .net is an IDE as well
<5> thnx
<7> melfar : I tested it at work, and we decided to buy slick edit
<2> But you don't necessarily need it to sue the .Net framework.
<1> thankfully they removed the '.net' from the title for visual studio 2005
<6> exception: slick edit for C++ development or for java?
<8> Erag0n the tutorials on the net are almost all useless
<6> I'm mainly interested in C++
<2> http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/program_structure.html <-- I haven'T read it thoroughly, but it does seem like a good starting point, and it doesn'T seem to have many errors.
<1> melfar if you're on windows, visual studio 2005 is a good choice
<7> melfar : I think it supports java as well, but I used it for c++
<7> it's a good VC clone
<1> why clone it if you can just use it?
<6> rdragon: does it have ClearCase integration (just like VSS)? Eclipse does..
<7> rdragon : once there is a linux version, I'd love to use it
<1> melfar - don't know
<7> but the hell will freeze over a second after that
<0> melfar: just use your favorite text editor
<8> exception what's a good VC clone?
<7> vawjrwrk : slickedit
<8> that's a ****ing editor
<7> it's a good ide
<8> there's NO compiler in it
<6> Kniht: things I like to have are code outline and find-declaration
<7> you can as well claim there is no compiler in VC, cl.exe is an external program just like gcc or g++
<0> melfar: if your fav. editor doesn't have regex search or find in files and you want those, get a different fav. editor
<8> exception EXCEPT that it comes with and installs with vc2005 express (or any of the OTHER vc products)
<8> so you can argue it, but you lose
<7> vawjrwrk : the end result is that I have a single gui where I can edit sources and projects, compile and debug
<1> melfar the clearcase site seems to indicate that it does integrate with VS
<8> VS != vc<blah> express
<7> notepad or vi are editors. VC or slickedit are IDEs
<6> also, VS cannot do DBG remote debugging..
<8> melfar really? are you SURE
<1> it can't?
<6> so does it support DBG? with server running on unix?
<8> **** no
<8> it's NOT a *nix program
<1> VC doesn't build unix binaries
<8> Visual Studio is a sytem for developing for Windows
<1> so... it doesn't debug them either
<4> do you think http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/ is useless ?
<8> Erag0n I think it had too many errors
<8> I suppose it's possible they've updated it since I looked last
<4> and that acceleated c++ hasnt any errors ?
<8> Erag0n yes it hasn't any
<1> The least-horrible C++ tutorial on the web, according to Solamente: http://cplus.about.com/od/beginnerctutorial/l/blcplustut.htm
<8> and it teaches in a better order
<8> rdragon thanks, that's on my home client but not here
<8> Erag0n do you see how much your cplusplus tutorial gives to the library? just streams
<8> from the tutorial
<8> while (! myfile.eof() )
<8> {
<8> getline (myfile,line);
<8> cout << line << endl;
<8> }
<1> yuck
<8> that will output the last line in the file twice
<8> <sigh>
<8> so NO, I still don't like it, Erag0n
<8> and the RIGHT way to write it is far more elegant
<8> ...and takes less space
<4> ok
<1> geez... blockbuster is giving me all kinds of renting offers
<1> i have the $15/month rent 2 dvd's at a time thing...
<1> and yesterday they sent me a coupon to get any in-store rental for $2.99 through march 1st
<1> and i just got an email where they're offering to trade the 2 free rentals per month for 1 free rental per week
<1> feels like a ploy to get you into the store more
<2> Well, aren't all promotions ploys to get you into the store?
<1> yeah... but these are pretty good promotions, heh
<1> if i can just stick to the free stuff, i'll be good
<3> if I do valarray<double> va1(10);
<3> can I loop through that function as an usual double array ?
<3> not function
<8> I haven't used valarray, and after reading Josuttis's section in his book, it's unlikely I will
<3> hm, ok
<8> what induced you to use valarray?
<3> just trying it out since it's supposed to be effective for computational use
<3> better than <vector>
<3> not sure why it's better, but that's another story
<3> lemme get this to work, before tinkering it with and optimizing it
<8> **** optimizing it until it's working
<3> heh, what did I say?
<8> I misread it
<3> ok
<8> btw, valarray doesn't work w/ sparse at all that I'm aware of
<3> typedef valarray<double> Vector;
<3> so I do Vector& xnew as an argument for a C++ function
<3> can I use xnew as an argument for a function that accepts double *xnew (a double array) ?
<3> that latter is a C function
<8> I'll say this again slowly....... I Haven't used valarray
<3> you didn't have to answer
<8> nobody else will
<3> sick of me now, eh :)
<8> from Josuttis "The valarray cl***es were not designed very well. In fact, nobody tried to determine whethere the final specification worked."
<8> "..... For example, to use valarrays, you often need some inconvenient and time-consuming type conversions"
<3> hm, all these confusing elements
<3> <vector> then
<8> the advantage I see is the notational one, and if you're not going to be doing slicing, or reshaping, or fancy stuff like that it might work
<3> trying
<9> hi ppl
<9> does anyone know visual fox pro...becuz i have a problem that i can't handle
<9> ??
<6> escape-three-are sound like r2d2
<9> r2d2?
<9> what do u mean melfar?
<6> that's a special foxpro feature Escap3r
<10> you do have a big problem and its called foxpro
<11> Anyway, this is C++, not Foxpro, so no - we don't know Foxpro (and those that do will probably keep very quiet)
<12> really?
<12> what's wrong with fox pro?
<12> it's a database, right?
<10> its a file based db much like access
<9> guys...i'm just asking for help...i thought some of u know fox pro
<6> and not sql-compliant
<9> it doesn't exist any channel fox pro
<11> It's also nearly been killed by MS at least twice (and only just reprived with a rabid fan base that makes VBers look mild)
<12> aren't all databases stored in files?
<10> #modelTfoed
<10> ford
<10> ultimatly yes
<9> u can use some commands from sql melfar
<10> but how they get there is the issue
<12> ok, that's enough of this, I think it might be lunch time.
<9> bye all
<3> rdragon or vawjrOTL,
<3> if I operate with double arrays in a C function
<3> and I am advised to use some vector cl*** in the C++ code (via templates)
<3> do I have to make temporary double arrays in order to communicate with the C function?
<3> or should I just jettison the whole idea of vector cl*** and just use plain old double array in the C++ code
<3> ???
<8> **** arrays
<13> vawjrwrk: why
<13> ?
<8> how many times do we need to say that to you
<13> vawjrwrk: /cli and arrays is NICE!
<13> *cries*
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