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<0> OHH that's.. stupid
<1> There you go..."portability" --- write once, run on any win32 platform....like CE....
<0> i'm going to lose that stupid convention today
<1> oh? the underlying operating system services aren't compatible? never mind that...
<2> NT/CE/ME
<2> cement ...
<0> lol
<2> huray
<1> cute
<3> cd/me/nt
<2> you have a dir called /me/nt ?
<3> I can't type this morning, I'm gonna quit ce/me/nt
<2> <cackle>
<0> it's such a h***le to write DLLs
<3> then why are you doing it?
<2> DLLs are best when kept utterly simple as possible
<0> yup. i learned that the hard way
<2> a nice "flat interface"
<0> same with OOP.. i used to have over 5 levels of inheritence
<0> it gets messy real fast
<3> that seems a bit excessive
<0> and yet things are less sane sometimes without oop. so i'm still trying to find my middle ground
<0> where coding style is more art than principle..
<1> ...and don't forget to factor in the (sometimes) brain-dead compilers / bugs when it comes to inheritance...
<3> that's why we use the latest ones, not like vc6
<0> lol
<1> ha -- you would think.
<1> :(
<0> shaddup i use vc6 and it kicks ***
<0> my ***
<3> but other than datatype->vector->matrix
<3> I'm not sure how you increase the depth very much
<3> or did row and column get separated in your hierarchy?
<0> that was a long time ago
<0> it no longer happens
<0> i was making an opengl charts & graphs gui module for this company that does stock analysis..
<3> you're doing this because boost::multi-array and boost::ublas don't suffice?
<0> and i build a whole windowing system from ground up..
<0> which was stupid
<0> i was reinventing mfc
<0> yup
<2> now point it at the other foot
<0> ublas? this has nothing to do with my recent obsession to rewrite ublas
<3> I meant the matrix math
<4> bealtine, the merger has been signed, I blame you for this
<2> aye
<2> told ya:)
<3> actually, Ashe` it's my doing
<4> Still, plenty of Lucent people will lose their job
<2> its an evil plot to invade france
<4> Wonder what they'll do with Bell Labs, their "3 US citizens directing it" sounds stupid and doesn't really offer any guarantee
<4> Anyway, 56000 (Alcatel) + 30500 (Lucent) employees
<4> - 8000 fired
<4> Heheh
<0> wow
<4> Hopefully they'll get rid of all the front office
<2> lucent have a big plant here
<2> so when you come over with the big axe...call me:-)
<4> Heheh
<4> Omg, Khan
<3> I guess MS released vs2005 to kill VB
<5> ?
<5> vb is in 2005
<2> vb is so 1980
<3> yes, there's a VB in vs2005
<3> and it's not real fond of the VB that someone wrote for vs.net2003
<5> ASP.NET ?
<5> .NET 2.0 changed things around abit, some C# needs a lil tweaking to get it to compile 2
<3> and how's this for some "help" ms-help://MS.VSCC.v80/MS.MSDN.v80/MS.VisualStudio.v80.en/dv_vbalr/html/ad1c5e07-dcd7-4ae1-a79e-ad3f2dcc2083.htm
<3> I'm wondering what following example
<2> redumb
<3> well, I got taken to this code and was wondering if I could just do one redim so I looked it up and got that....
<3> For l = 0 To u
<3> ReDim Preserve NewArray(l)
<3> NewArray(l) = IntArray(l)
<3> Next
<3> it seems to me that continually ReDim each time is kinda wasteful of time
<3> that is one UGLY language
<2> i did vb6 once it was awful
<2> had to read through "code"
<3> I think this started out as vb6 and has been jollied along
<3> I'm thinking we should run one of the converters over it
<2> rewrite it:)
<0> hey.. this is awesome. i just needed that ugly **** u just pasted..
<3> unfortunately all the vb -> c++ are vb6 the vb.net only goes -> C#
<0> i was in #vb asking for how to write this stuff
<2> covert to c# and then to c++/cli
<3> dextre1 if you think you need that, you have far more problems than you let on
<6> hey dudes
<3> are there some auto c# to c++/cli converters?
<2> not really
<2> . to -> and other bits 'n' pieces
<2> eh and lots of ^
<6> hey vawjr, how goes it?
<7> one could potentially use the C# CodeDOM to load up some C# code, get the DOM representation, and ask the C++/CLI CodeDOM to emit the code
<7> should be pretty straight forward
<7> i'm too lazy to try it though
<2> in brief how would that work?
<3> well, the code is actually VB right now, peterhu
<0> is it ok if i ask a vb question here?
<3> you'd probably be better off in #VB
<0> the #vb ppl are debating something philosophical about vb and ada
<7> bealtine, ***uming that they've now exposed the ICodeParser from the C# CodeDOM provider, you could use it to parse C# code into a CodeCompileUnit, and use that with the C++/CLI CodeDOM's ICodeGenerator implementation
<3> that's not a debate, Ada is a better language
<0> hmm.. i'll just ask. can someone show me how to build a 2d matrix in VB ? without (,) notation. i want to use it in C++ like double**
<0> i swear it looks like what u just wrote.. but i need a VB array of arrays.. i'm not sure how to do that
<2> i've no idea what that meant...but I'll take your word for it
<8> wow
<8> int array[array[]] ? :p
<9> Fire_ZeroOne you can do something similar, using generics in .NET 2.0
<9> List< List<double> >
<8> okie dokie
<0> i feel like i came out of a time machine, straight from 1996
<7> dextre1: from the C++ side, you'd be accessing it as a SAFEARRAY containing another SAFEARRAY
<3> well, that's when the compiler you're using was written
<0> lol
<0> http://www.noidea128.org/sourcefiles/16120~
<0> i have no idea what to write there :P
<0> any ideas.
<0> i used to know.. i'm so conditioned to c++ now i forgot my vb
<8> vb?
<8> ok
<0> i'm trying to make a matrix out of that.. or an array of arrays
<8> EgnVectors(i) = new
<2> dinnertime
<8> what do you wanna insert into your array?
<8> ints i ***ume?
<0> like.. a pointer to a new array
<0> doubles
<0> i want to make an array of an array of doubles
<8> soz
<8> dont know vb
<8> :(
<0> i think the sanest way to do this is to p*** it as a 1d array
<0> save myself some grief
<8> can u do like dim i(4)(4)(4) ?
<8> sounds corny but just a thought :p
<4> #vb
<0> ah. i got my answer..
<0> vb is so retarded that u need to define a type for the inside arrays
<9> c'moooon, it's 1PM when is homestar gonna update!@#%
<0> and make an array of objects for that type
<0> this is such dumb ****
<10> havin' troubles ?
<7> i didn't think my opinion of offshore developers could get worse
<7> but it has
<3> see, things can always get worse
<4> Dumb XP, ctrl+shift+esc and ctrl+alt+del don't work anymore
<11> yay, SF has news about the outage.
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