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<0> and what debugger?
<1> vawjrwrk Dev c++ have one :)
<0> and you get a "segmentation violation" on windows? I don't believe you
<2> Does anyone know of a good UML tool that is UML 2.0 compliant, supports perspectives, zoom-in & zoom-outs (in terms of abstractions), and meta-model extensions?
<2> Supports (-perspectives)/(+aspects)
<1> vawjrwrk i ok i will translate the error : access vilation ( segmantation error )
<3> IRR^ : don't know about compatibility, but I liked using visual paradigm
<2> What language is it by the way?
<2> exception thanks. Checking vp...
<4> Dsl-Colors: That kind of error is usually caused by incorrect operations on pointers, e.g. following a dangling pointer, deleting a pointer twice or overrunning an array.
<4> Good luck finding the cause.
<4> (a debugger may or may not be helpful in that case)
<5> doesnt your compiler have a debugger?
<0> Dsl-Colors access violation doesn't necessarily mean segmentation error
<1> _m_ can you take a look in the code ? it in noidea128.org nick name Spax



<0> Dsl-Colors I don't have wxwindows, so I cannot rund that here
<1> vawjrwrk ok but i have copied just what the debuger give me as error
<4> sorry, that site doesn't work for me.
<4> It needs Java, which I have disabled, of course.
<1> :s
<1> ok no prob
<4> s/Java/JavaScript/
<6> vawjrwrk maybe u diodn'T saw my question earlier... do you know if it's possible to buy a pdf version of the C++ book 3rd edition by Sstroustup ?
<0> static3d_ I saw it, and I don't know. to the best of my knowledge AW doesn't sell their books in pdf form
<1> vawjrwrk have you take a look in my post there ?
<6> vawAFKhome okay thank you
<0> Dsl-Colors I have, and I don't have (nor want) wxwindows so I can't compile or run it here
<2> They do give out electronic versions in accompanying cds
<2> chm format e.g.
<1> vawjrwrk ok but in the code do you say any probleme ?
<0> you MIGHT be having a problem with two things called item1
<1> vawjrwrk it's the same item
<0> Dsl-Colors no it isn't
<0> one of them is a local variable, the other a member variable (private)
<1> vawjrwrk ok i found the erreur u have a right cause i have addes the fonction at the end and i have forget to erase the wxlistbox ... new ...
<1> vawjrwrk thinks :)
<0> "That's what we're here for" 6 Victor A. Wagner Jr.
<2> Thinking reminds me... gordon bell was working on data structures for storing information in a human memory fashion.
<0> I don't think anyone _knows_ how human memory works
<2> vawjrwrk people have varying levels of understanding on different aspects of human memory
<2> And some serious psychologists/Comp scis have worked a long time on it.
<0> IRR^ I have two very good friends (husband and wife team) who have Ph.D. in neurobiology and _they_ tell me nobody knows, I take them at their word
<2> Most well known perhaps is the guy who wrote "Soceity of Minds"
<2> vawjrwrk thats interesting. Its true that nobody KNOWs, but people have good theories.
<2> A lot better than Evolution and Big Bang anyway.
<7> Hello people, I'm a newbie in C++ and programming in general. I have gone through a few online tutorials over the last 2 months and found them to be useful in their own right. However, I think it's time for me to purchase a hardcopy of a C++ programming book. I am going to buy 'Accelerated C++' by Andrew and Barbara. Any comments?
<0> an incorrect theory is worse than not having one
<0> I recommend the books at http://rudbek.com/books.html
<2> krg if you are on a tech channel, don't use the word newbie.
<0> krg 1st one on the list
<2> Say that I am new to, or I am learning etc.
<7> what's wrong?
<2> vawjrwrk Gordon Bell is a very respected scientist.
<8> hehe
<0> IRR^ is being somewhat overbearing and pedantic
<2> So are Marvin Minskey and Rhodney Brooks
<0> IRR^ so are my friends
<2> vawjrwrk have you seen Brooks' robots?
<0> she threw a monkey wrench into the theories of the "gene expression" folks a couple years back
<7> @vawjrwrk: thanks for that webpage
<2> They exhibit insect level automata, and some higher level functions as well.
<2> vawjrwrk thats a very specialised and minute area of the entire nueuro [sic] psychology domain
<0> Minskey has been working on this stuff for 40 years
<2> yup
<2> More than that probably
<7> I probably need to find a less intimidating chat channel, can't follow a thing.
<5> this is the least intimidating #c++ ch there is....
<5> on the major nets anyway
<2> krg because we aren't discussing C++
<2> And you wouldn't find folks like over here else where.
<7> then why isn't anybody encouraging a 'newbie' such as me? :(
<5> we did...we recommend books
<9> bye all
<5> you study first then ask questions
<8> krg, i'm most likely more useless than u, i just lurk here until i know enough 2 chat :P
<8> yeah



<7> please talk C++, I need to get imbibed in it
<7> Cantide: no, i'm more useless than you ;)
<8> pfft
<5> step 1 : get book
<5> read book
<8> then ask :P
<0> I read all his early stuff, then had to do some "real" stuff and they weren't getting much done at MIT
<0> I'd be interested in seeing what Quantum`` gets w/ his stuff this year
<7> how about #include <accelerated c++>
<2> nuts...
<7> int main () {cout << read;}
<5> monkeys
<5> stop pasting crap
<7> got to go. I'll read some C++ and get more knowledgeable
<2> vawjrwrk its true they got into a deadend at MIT.
<0> so I kinda quit following the AI stuff
<2> Case of smart people with a horizon the size of a toilet seat.
<7> noone wants to say bye to a newbie?
<0> bye
<7> aww.. thanks
<2> If you read Society of Mind, MM starts very confident and atheistic :P, but ends up meandering around during the second half of the book.
<8> bye bye krg
<2> What is Quantum`` working on by the way?
<0> ask him next time you see him
<0> some "neural net" stuff I think
<2> Thats also a pretty boring area
<8> wb Tamama
<2> Tamama I heard you had food poisoning from a roasted duck which was purportedly dead for years.
<10> hmm I see something weird in the implementation of boost::weak_ptr
<10> two members, T* px; and detail::weak_count pn; are either public or private, depending on if BOOST_NO_MEMBER_TEMPLATE_FRIENDS is defined...
<10> maybe it's intentional
<10> oh actually I think it is, looking at the comments... nevermind ;)
<5> yet another broken compiler define?
<10> nah I think it's ok
<10> I was just wondering why the internal pointer to a weak_ptr wasn't private
<10> I guess it's a shortcoming of vc8
<0> rdragon it's possible that the config is wrong for vc8
<11> whatever the repair guy did to the dryer has made it pwn
<2> Whats pwn
<8> >_<
<11> it's what i do, and JBlitzen does not
<11> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pwn&f=1
<11> Perfect ownage. Flawless victory. Schooled. Lesson taught. Owned beyond conventional words, and so excited about it, it's mistyped. Usually proceeded by noob.
<11> haha
<2> Hey exception, Visual paradigm doesn't meet my needs :(((
<0> gribouille did you ever get the unary / binary operators figured out?
<6> vawAFKhome it was Run that was asking about that iirc
<6> * vawjrwrk
<0> oh
<0> I was scrambling to get out of the house this morning and saw some stuff on it and recalled gribouille's name in the conversation
<0> Run's also, but he just left (that's what triggered the memory)
<6> lol
<12> heh
<12> http://www.overlawyered.com/2006/03/future_***uallyfrustratedfan_c.html
<13> worksafe?
<14> its just text
<12> always work safe.
<11> heh police chase on tv
<11> unusual as they're chasing a cop car
<8> lol
<12> http://secure.eonstreams.com/koa_am/GeoTeacher.mp3
<12> heh
<12> http://robertbreyer.smugmug.com/photos/sspopup.mg?AlbumID=1235757
<12> sweet
<12> the new gym
<12> oh man
<12> listen to that mp3
<12> wow
<12> heh
<12> this is a HS teacher
<12> in cl***
<12> just going off


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