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<0> I wish I was paid
<1> You're not attaching a debugger to it, so it's kind of different
<0> why would it constantly work in VS.NET if there was a race condition
<0> its only happening with the .exe's
<2> When you say "in VS.NET", you mean while debugging, right?
<1> Try running it few times with ctrl+F5 and see what happens
<2> Might run at a different speed when being debugged.
<0> debugging or release, both work great in VS.NET
<1> Doesn't matter, you're debugging the release one heh
<2> Right, but F5 == debugging, whether you build for debugging or not, right?
<2> Exactly.
<3> http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/601-8431213-3467321?asin=B00020O572
<0> hhmmm, k
<4> Nice
<0> be right back
<1> Btw I met the nicest developer ever today
<4> I'll check target out for a new shaver, by the way
<1> Actually I met him before but I thought he was evil
<4> How did her legs look, ashe
<2> MrAshe: Does debugging typically alter the contents of the program's address space, or is usually non-intrusive?
<1> Today I found a bug in his stuff, called him
<1> And he told me
<0> aahh your right, its crashing in VS.NET with crtl-F5
<0> so race condition??
<1> "yeah, I figured that yesterday and sent the patch to your e-mail around 8pm"
<2> Torg: Maybe.
<1> Now that's being proactive
<0> and when I say crashing, I mean one computer just is not playing
<4> Nice
<2> Torg: What do you mean by "the computer is not playing"?
<0> I have the ability to have the computer play against itself
<3> http://www.theagitator.com/archives/026641.php#026641
<0> works fine in debug mode
<0> 100%
<3> why do you need a shaver?
<3> get a razor, like a man.
<2> Torg: Ok, so there's only one computer involved?
<0> yes
<0> both players are the same computer trying to beat itself
<2> Torg: How many processes? How many threads per process?
<4> I use a razor exclusively, sometimes I just want to shave quick
<1> Move the razor faster
<0> not sure, its a project we've been developing for a year with 5 other guys, I didn't handle much of the AI
<0> where would you start for looking for race condidtions?
<2> Torg: Sounds like you have some research to do.
<2> Torg: Figuring out how the program works is a good place to start.
<2> Is it client-server? Is it single process? Does it perform any asynchronous tasks?
<1> Does it communicate with your bluetooth 3G enabled mobile phone?
<2> What's the first thing that it didn't do that it should have?
<1> Can it cook?
<0> its not client-server, I believe its single process, actually, almost positive of that
<0> start moving its peice
<2> Ashe: What are you going on about?
<1> Just investigating
<2> That doesn't sound very helpful.
<5> Follow standard procedures
<0> jbatista, is there some functionality of VS.NET that searches out race conditions at all?
<1> I'm not being helpful, I'm investigating
<1> Hey impatient
<6> sup fewl
<1> Just came back from the irish pub
<1> Oh wait, they're all irish here
<6> was gonna say, you sound tipsy
<1> Sure am, with 3 cokes
<6> hmm ashe has been spreading stories
<1> I didn't say anything
<1> You've got a reputation
<6> I do need to shave my head again, actually
<2> Torg: You could enable/insert logging to narrow down where it's going astray.
<2> But it could be lots of different things.
<0> thanks man, its a starting point atleast
<1> Or just get rid of the game and start over
<2> There's that.
<6> <object> tag is giving me a hard time :(
<1> The evil tag
<6> in that it wants to always be the topmost item (z-index)
<6> quite
<1> Kind of like <select>'s
<1> Cause they're real windows
<6> ya <select> is a bitch too
<6> think my mono is trying to make a comeback
<1> http://www.flashdesignerzone.com/tutorials/t1026.php
<1> Seems to work here for flash
<6> wouldn't flash kind of fall in the same category as <object>
<1> Yup, otherwise I wouldn't tell you about it
<3> seriously, it's almost impossible to make simple plans with people.
<3> only 3 of us trying to pick a place for dinner
<3> I say, I'll go anywhere
<3> one guy wants Dennys, that's fine
<3> the other guy refuses to drive the 2 extra exits to get to Dennys
<4> I could go for a denny's grand slam
<3> he's fine with a place about a mile away
<2> Denny's is nasty.
<3> but that extra mile is too much for him.
<7> yeah, denny's is no good
<4> Pfffft
<3> Dennys is fine
<3> it's your standard diner.
<3> like IHOP
<3> though, IHOP has better panackes.
<7> food quality is pretty poor... at ihop too, except for the pancakes
<4> IHOP's good too
<4> Although their french toast was a bit soggy last time
<3> it's breakfast food
<3> eggs, and bacon
<3> that's hard to do wrong.
<4> And toast
<3> you wouldn't get better eggs from a 4-star restaurant
<4> Well
<2> That explains it. I've never liked breakfast food... except for cereal and sausage.
<3> not standard eggs anyway
<4> Yeah, I like breakfast food
<3> they might do them up some fancy way
<4> English muffins, etc.
<3> but if you're specifically looking for like
<3> eggs over easy
<1> Heh, sausage breakfast food
<3> or scrambled eggs
<4> Or a grand slam
<3> there's really no difference between restaurants.
<8> man totally weak
<2> MrAshe: What, you Euros don't eat sausage in the morning?
<7> shrug... the restaurant (dennys) always feels dirty, and i've always found the food to be non-satisfying in taste
<7> i've been to a bunch of them... in NY, and FL, and WA... all the same experience
<7> not FL, MI
<7> my friend grew up with it, he loves it
<4> Pfft dirty
<3> I don't love it
<2> For the trouble and expense, I'd rather just go with the McDonald's breakfast menu -- or McDoo, as Ashe calls them.
<3> it's just standard diner food
<4> Well, nobody does
<4> Yeah
<4> It's denny's
<7> i would prefer mcdonalds breakfast
<7> the egg sandwiches are good
<2> It's going to be a greasy m*** to get your stomach out of the way as quickly and cheaply as possible in the morning either way.
<1> jbatista: only in UK/IE
<2> Might as well be cheap and fast.
<4> Oh puke
<4> Egg sandwich from mcd's
<7> lol
<3> apparently fats in the morning are good for you.
<3> fatty foods
<4> Why don't you just drink from the fryers
<7> ;p
<1> Good to get fat, for sure
<3> you don't have to get fat from eating fatty foods.
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