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<budest> just so I know
<Tamama> it does
<Tamama> read the code i pasted
<SalieriM> i don't see anything wrong with it? =o
<Tamama> there isnt
<Tamama> :)
<budest> so then why won't it compile?
<Tamama> it compiles fine
<Tamama> budest << http://www.noidea128.org/sourcefiles/15975
<budest> yeah I know that but there was a problem with the code that I supplied and I'm just wondering what was the problem.
<SalieriM> ah, i missed it :P
<Tamama> using namespace std;
<Tamama> is not present in the url i pasted
<budest> Why did it have to be left out?
<Tamama> read up a few lines
<Tamama> ah another one.. wstring x; x=var; (var has operator bool.. it thinks it is charT or charT * ..
<Tamama> and just keeps wstring &
<DrkMatter> I somehow can't imagine a spammer who would name it's bot "Helga".
<DrkMatter> It doesn't have that feminine appeal!
<rdragon> heh
<Asriel`> depends what they're advertising, I guess
<Asriel`> I mean, khan will be right over there
<Asriel`> they know their market
<mrng> Hi there -- would any know of a matlab-related channel?
<vawjrwrk> #math would be the closest, I guess
<mrng> hmm, thanks!
<mrng> p.s. -- did ef-net go down? it's been a long time since i've been on IRC, and I couldn't seem to connect to any efnet server
<rdragon> efnet isn't down, afaik
<mrng> hmm, okay, well thanks! :)
<cl0ud> it should be
<cl0ud> but that's a separate issue altogether
<WhiteDEmon> is there another way to get input from mouse or keyboard other than testing a thread que of the current application in a win32 environment?
<WhiteDEmon> does anyone know
<WhiteDEmon> please tell me
<rdragon> windows sends a message to your window on input
<rdragon> you could also use something like DirectInput
<WhiteDEmon> beside the DirectX library
<WhiteDEmon> only with the Win32 API
<WhiteDEmon> is it possible to retrieve keyboard and mouse input?
<rdragon> <rdragon> windows sends a message to your window on input
<WhiteDEmon> is that a 'no' to my last question?
<WhiteDEmon> i would be glad if i could hear some second opinios about what i have just asked
<rdragon2> windows sends a message to your window on input
<rdragon2> what's the problem?
<WhiteDEmon> is it possible to retrieve keyboard and mouse input beside testing the thread message que?
<WhiteDEmon> that's my question
<vawjrwrk> sounds like an OS question, not a C++ one
<WhiteDEmon> well...i gues you people dont program the toaster in C++, you probably program windows os, most you at least
<rdragon2> i write microwave timer software
<vawjrwrk> no, I programmed the Toaster in C on the Amiga where it was originally
<rdragon2> heh
<vawjrwrk> so quit w/ what you think are insults, WhiteDEmon
<WhiteDEmon> well...i programm only the PC
<rdragon> what's wrong with looking at the windows messages, WhiteDEmon ?
<rdragon> that's what they're for
<WhiteDEmon> well
<WhiteDEmon> i am trying to write a wrapper
<WhiteDEmon> around user interface
<WhiteDEmon> objects
<WhiteDEmon> user objects
<WhiteDEmon> and for completeness sake
<WhiteDEmon> and better understanding
<WhiteDEmon> full understanding
<WhiteDEmon> i need to know if it is possible to retrieve input some other ways
<rdragon> there is
<rdragon> DirectInput is one way
<WhiteDEmon> ok...
<WhiteDEmon> but i am interested only in win32 api methods
<mrng> i'm not sure WhiteDEmon, i only know of using the message method in the big WindowProc function
<mrng> other than using directx
<WhiteDEmon> how about using the Communication Objects
<WhiteDEmon> and their methods
<WhiteDEmon> like CreateFile, ReadFile, WriteFile
<rdragon> well, those are for files
<rdragon> the mouse isn't a file, in windows, i don't think
<WhiteDEmon> not going to respond to this
<WhiteDEmon> read http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/devio/base/about_communications_resources.asp
<rdragon> how about you read it
<WhiteDEmon> :))
<WhiteDEmon> i have already
<WhiteDEmon> some time ago
<WhiteDEmon> :)
<WhiteDEmon> ok....
<WhiteDEmon> so...
<WhiteDEmon> nobody who can tell me
<WhiteDEmon> something
<vawjrwrk> yeah, you're wasting everyone's time
<rdragon> read it again
<rdragon> or read something else
<rdragon> keep reading and looking things up until you're satisfied
<rdragon> until you're satisfied that there is no other way, or until you find another way - then use it
<WhiteDEmon> these kind of answers are not suited for people who pretend to be programmers
<WhiteDEmon> aren't we here to talk?
<vawjrwrk> I'll try to make it simple for you, dipstick, we're not here to do everything for you
<vawjrwrk> we don't do research because some ***hole comes in here and bitches
<vawjrwrk> we're here to help people with C++ problems, and this simply is NOT a C++ problem
<WhiteDEmon> i did not bitch anyone....***hole
<rdragon> do your own research - if you have found an alternate solution, then you can share it and we can talk about that
<vawjrwrk> C++ doesn't even know what a ****ing mouse is
<vawjrwrk> and the two people who HAVE been responding to you are both professional programmers
<WhiteDEmon> well now....
<vawjrwrk> and from the time of day, I'd say we're both at work
<rdragon> heh
<vawjrwrk> you are at work, right rdragon ?
<rdragon> yup
<MrMuscolo> does anyone know how to use MS's XML parser? what files have to be included, because i included <msxml.h> but it still gives an error of using an undefined cl***
<Gizor> hello
<MrMuscolo> .\cSky.cpp(18) : error C2079: 'a' uses undefined cl*** 'XMLDocument'
<gribouille> MrMuscolo, namespace problem ?
<rdragon> umm
<MrMuscolo> hmmm...
<rdragon> XMLDocument is a .net cl***
<Gizor> .rc files are not included in dev-c++? i mean we have to use text editors?
<MrMuscolo> oops
<rdragon> unless
<MrMuscolo> no it should work on c++
<rdragon> http://www.codeproject.com/soap/ce_xml.asp
<rdragon> are you compiling with /clr ?
<rdragon> XMLDocument is not part of msxml.h
<vawjrwrk> I'm pretty sure that ms's xml parser is in .NET
<vawjrwrk> unless they've _very recently_ put it elsewhere
<rdragon> msxml.h is a bunch of COM stuff
<MrMuscolo> still doensn't work
<rdragon> I don't know what doesn't work means, MrMuscolo
<MrMuscolo> my autocompletion says it's part of msxml.h
<rdragon> then it's wrong
<rdragon> or it's something internal
<MrMuscolo> so if it's .NET, i can use it, can't I?
<rdragon> look at the link I sent you
<rdragon> not unless you use C++/CLi
<rdragon> you can make a mixed mode app with the /clr compiler option
<MrMuscolo> i'm sorry... what is c++/cli?
<NineVolt> see plus plus command line interface
<rdragon> no
<rdragon> cli = common language infrastructure
<NineVolt> oh yea?
<rdragon> referring to the stuff that drives .NET
<NineVolt> i know nothing about .net
<rdragon> in short, simple, not completely accurate terms, C++/CLI is "managed C++"
<NineVolt> meh :P
<MrMuscolo> i'm not too sure about what THAT means, but i think i got the idea
<rdragon> you'll need to have vs2005 to use it
<rdragon> it'll let you easily use managed code from unmanaged code
<MrMuscolo> i have it
<rdragon> k, then start researching ;)
<NineVolt> or start uninstalling :P
<MrMuscolo> thanks, NineVolt, that was very kind of your part
<NineVolt> i'm just looking out for everyone's best interest.


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