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<0> now :)
<0> I switched servers
<1> oh well, NOW you're lagged 9 minutes
<0> lol
<0> depends on to whom i guess
<2> when i try to register a .dll, regsvr32 just hangs, anyone ever got that?
<3> [vawjr PING reply]: 19mins 23secs
<3> that'll get to you sometime tomorrow
<4> hello all
<0> heh bealtine
<0> nice splits btw
<0> hm
<0> I ponder the differences between std::string and std::vector<char>
<5> Tamama: allocation strategy, member functions, ...
<6> Tamama: string-specific methods - searches, substrings, etc
<6> char* ctor



<0> (and they are pretty small data blobs)
<7> can anyone help me?? i need to write/read to/from registry
<8> shoot
<7> i need to write something in to registry to make change each run of the file... how can i do that??
<7> i mean... that i need to make something like a counter wich is stored in registry..
<9> what's the problem? there are winapi functions for that, or if you're using .NET there is likely a cl*** for that too
<10> first question: why are you using the registry to store that information?
<7> i know that it is... but i don't know where to find how to do it...
<9> good question peterhu hehe
<7> peterhu i need to make that becouse i need each time the computer starts.. that it runed a number of times
<8> I don't quite follow, what does he mean?
<9> he wants to keep a counter of how many times his program has executed, if i could decipher correctly
<7> something like that... and the program run each time computer starts..
<9> to make the program run on startup you have several options
<8> you want the program to start when windows starts?
<10> the recommended way is to store data in the user's application data folder
<10> when the OS starts or when a user logs in? big difference
<7> hm... and i need to make something like file storage..
<7> but the data can be modified from text files...
<7> hm..
<7> i need when windows starts..
<10> all data that exists on a writable medium can be modified
<7> becouse there are more than 2 users
<7> yes but from registry it can be modified just by someone that knows win very good
<5> security through obscurity
<10> that's, quite frankily, the dumbest justification i've ever heard
<5> peterhu: why would you prefer flat files over the registry?
<7> i'll think about storing it in a file..
<7> but how do i make it to start when windows runs?? not copying in startup directory
<10> because, the registry isn't for storing arbitrary data, makes recovering harder when the OS is borked, and requires a special editor
<10> it wasn't *meant* for storing every application's data
<7> ok... thanks
<7> but how do i make it to start when windows runs?? not by copying in startup directory
<6> so why did windows api encourage people to use it ?
<10> only services start when windows does
<9> Mad^Demon HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current Version/Run
<10> exception: because they made a mistake, and it's no longer the recommended approach
<5> peterhu: so what was it meant for exactly?
<7> yes... i know that... but i don't know how to write there..
<10> it was originally created for OLE
<10> and microsoft put some OS configuration into it, and then application teams started going, well we might as well use it too
<7> YUY0x7 how can i access and write to registry??
<10> and then everyone saw microsoft do this, and figured, well, we should to
<5> i see
<9> if you would google for 2 minutes, you would get complete examples on how to use the winapi functions
<6> Mad^Demon : www.msdn.com, enter "modify registry" in the search box, and here you go
<10> "beats .ini files, i guess" was the mentality at the time
<7> i googled it but didn't find anithing that i understoor
<7> ok.. thanks
<10> RegOpenKeyEx, RegQueryValueEx, etc
<8> CRegKey if you use MFC
<10> plus, very few applications actually use ACLs correctly either
<10> frankily, i'm tired of windows application developers being clueless halfwits with respect to security
<10> it's time they grew up
<3> xml = the new ini file
<6> xml > ini file => xml != the new ini file
<10> i blame microsoft for being a poor example, but they've wised up
<10> i also blame microsoft for encouraging idiots to write software
<6> *cough*vb*cough*
<3> vb != software :)



<6> vb is a good piece of software, but it's used to produce some crap
<10> anyway, that's my rant for the hour
<10> oh don't get me started on the irish!
<3> :)
<10> though, my beard shows my irish heritage
<10> got some red in there
<3> there are cheap solutions to that ...
<3> grecian 2000
<10> pfft
<10> i have three hair colors
<3> vpn is working again...sigh
<10> yeah, that's right, sigh
<10> get to work you lazy bum
<3> first nice day in weeks and "work" beckons and vpn was down too
<3> global warming my ***
<3> global freezing more like
<11> hi
<11> which sorting algorithm woudl you use to sort a sequence of numbers from a text file, thta is as large thaty it can not be loade dinto memeory ?
<12> external sorting
<11> ok where I can get more info about that
<11> any url ?
<11> any sample code ?
<12> google
<12> but i thought this was #c so i duno if c++ has some built in cl***es for it
<11> th eidea is to develop my custom algorithmn
<11> so no matter
<13> can any one give me a good C++ learning site ?
<14> can you please repeat yourself even more?
<13> can any one give me a good C++ learning site ?
<15> lol. _Codex you fixed him up
<15> shame on you
<15> If cl*** B is an inner cl*** to cl*** A, do functions in B have access to private members of A?
<16> not unless it's a friend, is my first guess
<15> Thats what I wanted to confirm as well...
<15> I am increasingly thinking about compiling my language to C# instead of MSIL.
<16> ...um?
<16> isn't C# compiled to MSIL ?
<15> Yeah
<16> oh, i see what you're saying
<15> But generating C# syntax is easier
<16> why not just write C# then?
<16> (what's the language for?)
<15> code rather. Yet C# doesn't exploit all of MSIL, not that I think I'll use the unexploited parts of IL.
<15> Its a Component oriented language.
<15> Basically you have behaviours, which communicate through connections.
<15> And can contain sub behaviours, which also have access to connections from the parent.
<15> So translating to IL, behaviours become cl***es, and connections become inner cl***es with a ManualResetEvent that controls the connection I/O
<15> However, connections can have the 'restrict' option that makes them private to the behaviour, yet sub behaviours can access that connection
<17> http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/local_news/article/0,1406,KNS_347_4741144,00.html
<15> ok it doesn't need to be a friend
<16> IRR oh really? hmm
<15> Thats right. And makes sense.
<16> I suppose it might
<15> If you don't trust them, why make them insiders
<16> so that nobody can instantiate them
<16> since they're probably an internal cl***, or private member
<15> Well, the idea of making members private is to give an abstracted interface to *outsiders*.
<15> The notion of protection in OO doesn't involve inside members.
<16> yeah, I can't think of anything necessarily bad
<18> Doesnt anybody know of file mapping?
<16> what's file mapping?
<18> Yes I tought so
<18> I love it
<18> it makes thing run so much faster
<16> that doesn't answer my question
<19> "Go 5 folders down by the corrupt .bin and take right at the .exe"
<18> fast access to youre files
<19> :-P
<16> that still doesn't answer my question
<18> You load part or whole file in memory
<18> you can access it with another instance
<18> This means pre loading


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