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<0> vawjr is really Chuck Norris
<1> and it's DARK in my house
<0> And he wouldn't know if it was the swat team or a large bear
<1> TCA that's part of the difficulty
<2> yeah I sleep with a P226 in .40cal next to my bed too
<1> the glock in 9 is there too
<2> somebody's getting shot on their way up the stairs
<1> AND the .30-06 if we have time
<1> body armor does NOT stop .30-06
<3> but, it's just ridiculous the force being used in these cases now.
<3> tiny little towns are getting SWAT teams
<1> did you ever read the after action report on Columbine that suggested that the deployment of the SWAT team cost lives
<3> no
<3> I have no problem with SWAT teams in general
<3> but, I do have a problem with them being used so casually
<2> they're expensive to deploy too
<2> and taxpayers foot that bill as well
<3> kicking down non-violent criminal's doors in the middle of the night.
<1> one incident.... swat shows up...two boyscouts are attempting to do (and succeeding) emergency first aid on a teacher...the swat make them leave and then he bleeds to death
<3> to do things like, break up a gambling ring
<3> but, what's more disturbing is the complacency of most people
<3> the typical, "I don't care" response
<3> or the, "Well, they shouldn't be doing anything like that to begin with." response
<1> Noidea I think I'm gonna regret to the day I die being complacent about Waco
<3> All I'm asking for here is a little concern from people when stuff like this is happening
<3> but, there's probably a football game on, gotta pay attention to what's important.
<4> They won't care until it happens to them
<3> right, and that's the problem
<3> you need to care before that
<3> to stop this **** from happening.
<4> Humans are egoists, why would they change ;)
<1> Martin Niemoeller must be spinning in his grave
<3> don't know who that is.
<1> I'll bet you actually do
<1> In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
<1> Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
<1> Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
<1> Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
<1> Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.
<1> -Martin Niemoeller (1892-1984)
<5> where did I read that one before
<3> yeah
<3> I do know that quote.
<1> it's a rather welll known quote
<3> never seen it attributed to anyone.
<1> now you know
<2> ominous year of death
<1> http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/laser.htm
<1> now that's something we all need
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