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<0> Okay, Asriel
<1> You've still not met the point
<1> But I don't actually expect you to
<0> So let me sum up your point thus far
<1> You'll ignore the point, argue around it, insult me, then claim victory
<1> I could write a markov generator for your argument style in about 15 minutes
<0> America is evil, because we have not granted a body that has no right to access to our secure facilities, and which did not request it, full and unfettered access to our secure facilities.
<1> And save me even logging onto IRC
<2> I don't have any ****, politics (of whatever country) are crap
<0> That's all you've said so far, Asriel.
<3> We need more photos from Abu Ghraib.
<2> I think we don't even know 0.5% of what is going on in the world
<1> Point A, that's not what I said, and is wrong
<0> Can you see, Asriel, why we think you're full of ****?
<0> And that your anti-American hatred is blinding you to clear realities?
<1> To clarify: The US claims gitmo is fine, not a problem
<0> So far you have said nothing which would indicate it isn't.
<1> The UN, Red Cross, your closest ally all claim otherwise
<1> In fact, you have *no* international support for it at all
<0> That's not true at all
<1> How do you answer that?
<0> The UN did not claim that we were in violation of international law
<0> Neither did the Red Cross, far as I know
<0> And I don't know who this unmentioned "closest ally" is.
<1> UK
<0> Who in the UK?
<1> Er, the UK government
<0> Okay, who in the UK government?
<1> I Can't recall. Straw or Blair.
<0> Because so far you're 0 for 2, let's investigate your third claim here.
<0> Okay, so you don't really know.
<1> Er, I'm not 0 for 2
<0> Yes, you are.
<0> Neither your UN claim nor your Red Cross claim held water.
<1> I can look it up if you want, but when a cabinet minister speaks, they speak for the government
<0> As you yourself admitted by saying "okay, but let's look at Iraq".
<1> What? The red cross says gitmo is "Tantamount to torture"
<1> How is that supporting it?
<0> I don't care what they think is "tantamount to torture".
<0> That means nothing legally.
<1> [22:16] <1> The UN, Red Cross, your closest ally all claim otherwise
<1> [22:16] <1> In fact, you have *no* international support for it at all
<0> You piss me off, and I say that's tantamount to you being homo***ual.
<1> This is the point we're discussing
<1> Ah yes, the personal insults. Here they come
<1> Don't do that, it makes you look fairly stupid
<0> I'd rather be right and look stupid for it.
<1> especially as you just insulted me with an ad hominem
<1> Whereas I was just commenting on what you said
<3> heh... this is funny.
<1> I know, you could film it and sell it for cash monies :)
<1> I don't know why I do it really. Sadism
<1> I guess
<0> Back
<0> Asriel, I'm not going to explain to you what an ad hominem fallacy consists of.
<0> Just don't use one.
<1> Then I might need to explain "hypocrite" to you
<0> Now getting back to my refutation of your last stupid point, I said "you piss me off, and I say that's tantamount to you being homo***ual".
<0> Now, can you say I'm wrong?
<0> You can't, because "tantamount" is a subjective judgment which has no legal basis.
<0> It's not a disprovable statement.
<3> It's easy to be a middle-cl*** white American and have the rationality that the US goverment is doing a fine job. And of course, if somebody does not have the same "form" of rationality, they're called "stupid."
<1> Which is a gramatical tweak to an adhominen attack, so I'm not even going to argue it
<0> I don't care.
<1> Playing with semantics is not what I'm in the mood for
<0> Respond to the refutation.
<0> You raised the semantics.
<1> No, because you're personally insulting me, and I can't be bothered anymore
<0> You brought up the word "tantamount" as being somehow legally relevant.
<4> oh good, an argument
<1> But kick me again, and you won't be allowed back in
<0> You have to defend that now, or your **** falls completely flat.
<1> Then in your eyes, it falls flat. I don't actually give a rats ***
<1> The rest of the room knows :)
<0> Of course you don't give a rat's ***.
<0> Because you have no understanding of your position.
<0> You are fundamentally incapable of scrutinizing or defending it.
<0> Which is why you think the legality of something is just "a semantic nuance".
<5> ok both of you, shut it or move to #politics :/
<0> Basically, you're a ****ing idiot.
<0> So don't spout anti-American **** in here again.
<0> Not anything you can't back up.
<1> If you can't control personal insults, please stay out of here
<0> Seems like I can control them just fine.
<1> Notice that even when arguing with you, the rest of us don't resort to personally insulting you
<0> No, you just say my country is evil, and you can't explain why.
<1> Fair doos
<1> But if he keeps spouting insults, I will get mad :)
<0> I stopped, Tech, and he didn't.
<5> I didn't see either of you stopping
<6> bah, don't stop the entertainment
<3> thanks TechRaven
<5> whats up Achamenes?
<6> he's just going to ask C++ questions now.
<6> and you should be working
<6> ugh
<6> someone is hogging up all the CPU on my computer.
<5> I just bought a new PC :)
<5> not going to be in till monday tho :(
<6> where'd you buy it from?
<6> you're not building your own?
<1> tempted to buy my next, having built my own for the last 10 years. price differential is minimal now
<5> noidea: building it, but the parts won't all be here
<1> loosing the freedom to pick exact components will be a PITA, but loosing the weekends of "hunt the defective component" won't be a problem
<1> TechRaven - Oblivion induced upgrade? ;)
<6> what kind of computer is it?
<6> what processors?
<6> AMD Dual Core Opterons?
<6> http://www.mightymiddle.com/index.php?/archives/842-Prayer-Kills..html
<7> were i can found documentation for c++
<4> Match2: www.rudbek.com/books.html
<7> im bigener
<4> yes
<7> thx
<7> :)
<8> hi is anyone good at using menus in ms c++ .net
<8> i just need to know how to add a tick to a menu item
<8> at run time
<6> Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent.
<6> heh
<6> Nietzsche
<6> Believe me! The secret of reaping the greatest fruitfulness and the greatest enjoyment from life is to live dangerously!
<4> deleting gigs of junk from my pc
<4> trying to figure out what's making VS2k5 run like ***
<4> (UI is real slow)
<4> rebooting
<6> By trying we can easily endure adversity. Another man's, I mean.
<6> Mark Twain
<4> I think IRC has been plaguing my system for a while
<4> the log for this channel is 100MB+... i renamed it, and things are going much smoother
<9> that just makes the user slow, not your GUI
<9> ;P
<4> hehe
<4> it was odd... I was about to reboot, closed down irc, and everything came to life
<9> mines around 58MB
<4> well, i use mirc ;)
<9> ah, heheh
<4> not sure why exactly it makes things crap
<9> you'd think it wouldn't keep the log file resident in memory
<4> well, it doesn't
<9> and so its size wouldn't matter
<4> but it does keep the file open
<4> it might be a windows thing
<4> i mean, i haven't rebooted my system in weeks, at least
<9> my IRC logs are at about 450MB total
<4> and probably didn't close irc for about that long either
<4> so, maybe there's a longer-term issue with windows keeping files open, or maybe a problem in mirc
<4> shrug
<9> maybe
<4> im happy now, regardless
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