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<0> off she goes.
<1> GOD
<1> I love MUSE.
<2> whatever that is
<1> It's a band.
<1> They make me fly.
<2> they sound awful
<3> foo fighters have a good sound
<4> i saw muse live a year or two back
<4> between all the emo fags at the show
<4> and the music
<4> i wanted to get an ar15 and pump round after round into everyone in the place
<4> and then one into my head
<4> .. and thats the pg-13 version of what i wouldve liked to do
<1> :_/
<1> Hey, edcba or _capoeira or whoever who lives in France
<5> yes ?
<1> Is it true that after the 22 you can piss everywhere in France?
<1> 22pm
<1> bah, 22
<5> hmm it's not allowed but it's done :)
<1> Ah.
<1> I thought you were allowed to do so.
<6> Hi
<6> :]
<6> Yoan
<3> .:)
<6> hey
<3> hi
<3> how r u
<0> :D
<6> great
<6> u?
<6> hey Yoan
<0> sup
<6> je ne parle pas francais
<7> I do not speak french either
<7> wait, I'm lying
<0> lol
<6> ahaha
<8> given a string S with the following syntaxis: S = (S && S)
<1> What does && do?
<9> boo
<9> fluorescent bulb just died in my room
<1> :_(
<9> it lasted nearly a whole year
<1> NOW YOURE A FANTASM
<1> Well, I'm going to bed.
<1> Goodnight everybody.
<8> sorry, the client cutted the sentence... given a string S with the following syntaxis: S = (S && S) | (S || S) | !S | (Reg Cmp Reg); Reg = EAX | EBX | ... | EBP; Cmp = == | != | < | > | <= | >=; how to generate from there the optimal (fastest) ***embly code for ia32 (x86) (or at least some good code)? I want to know an algorithm...
<8> are you there vml?
<9> get the dragon book
<8> i have it, but i just need a simple and fast answer
<10> Can anyone help me with an x86 ***embly question
<4> there.
<4> ive cleaned every light fixture and changed every dead lightbulb.
<4> it was rather disgusting
<4> i noticed there were little dead bugs in my light fixtures
<4> wtf
<4> its like they crawled down and got stuck
<4> maybe 15-20 in each light fixture
<4> S = (S && S) | (S || S) | !S | (Reg Cmp
<4> Reg); Reg = EAX | EBX | ... | EBP; Cmp = == | != | < | > | <= |
<4> >=;
<4> did that make sense to anyone else?
<4> s = s binary and'd with it self or'd with itself logically or'd with itself or'd with ?not itself?
<4> erm logically and'd
<4> i think i get the cmp section
<4> he wants to compare a register and determine whether its equal, not equal, less than, greater than, less than or equal to or greater than or equal to
<4> i wonder if he is familar with the cmp instruction and efalgs
<4> eflags
<9> get the intel books
<9> oh, he left
<9> off to play some more games
<9> s'what I've been doing all day
<4> ive been wanting to get an idea of what the format of windows swap file is
<4> and then i realized
<4> i have the win2k source
<4> i dont need to wonder.
<11> anyone else alive?
<9> yeah you do
<9> you got it from me
<12> i use windows xp. I want to know how to completely protect an exe file from dis***embling(seeing the windows app title,string values etc). Does anyone have any hints and tips?
<4> you cant
<4> there is no such thing as total protection
<4> given a long enough time line, reverse engineers win every time
<4> you can make it harder via packers/crypto/anti-debugging tricks/etc
<4> but thats all it is, a delay
<13> the strongest protection is use a usb dongle with a processor, and put 99% of the program in there
<9> what if you delay it for so long that by then the software has gone outdated?
<13> no read/write access, just the ability to request x be done, and the results of doing x
<13> or, barring that, go to a client/server model, where 99% of the stuff occurs on the server, which you control
<4> im ***uming he wants everyone to be able to run the program
<4> + client/server/etc wouldnt solve the windows app title or string values issue
<13> right, thats kinda silly though
<4> agreed
<13> i dunno why he would care about that
<4> toys for children
<4> based off of that i think he wants a program
<4> that everyone can run, but cant reverse
<4> which is impossible/implausible
<13> all he can do is annoy reversers
<13> if he wants to be annoying, decrypting a function on entry, reencrypting on exit is annoying
<13> different keys for each function
<13> so people cant dump it
<9> the way I did it a couple years ago was to decrypt the code on the run in chunks, reencrypting it too on the run, it was very slow
<9> so there were always N bytes of real machine code present
<9> the cypher/decypher was done in a separate thread, making it even more annoying
<13> heh
<9> ... but I came to my senses, it's impossible to stop reverse engineers
<14> indeed
<13> yeah like i said, you can irritate em
<14> anybody has ida 5.0 and want to share?
<13> with hardware support, you can make things impossible for software reverse engineers
<13> i have ida5, but datarescue doesnt make much money, i dont think they should be ripped off
<9> of course
<14> uh
<14> one that care
<9> but it didn't take too long for them to crack the x-box
<14> tiocsti: its not true
<14> well im also a hardware reverse engineer :)
<14> depends on your hobbies
<13> whas not true
<4> akhbar = yup?
<14> hey sin :)
<14> sure
<4> query
<14> ok
<14> i must confess i got addicted to the Imgoen Heap songs
<14> imogen* holy crap
<4> likewise
<4> as for ****ing with reversers
<4> i like red herrings
<14> hehe
<4> decrypting functions that do nothing
<13> so do i
<14> if they want me to stop working they should send me some good hooker
<13> i like producing a LOT of branches
<13> that dont do anything, and never get executed
<13> but get decrypted, and have antidebug code and the like
<14> well there is one engine, should be released n few next months
<4> youd think your little color'ing code trick would take care of that though
<14> i bet u havent seen such **** :)
<4> presuming you have the balls to run it
<13> its all just time consuming stuff, all the same really
<14> no coloring **** will help with abstract algebra :)
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