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<0> Again?
<0> Jesus Christ.
<1> TCA deserted us again :_(
<0> What's happened?
<1> Yesterday he banned us all.
<0> What for?.
<1> Nothing.
<1> Let me see the logs.
<0> Has he gotten mad once again?
<0> Those suicide-girl episodes didn't treat him well.
<1> Haha
<1> (06:11pm) * X sets mode: +o TCA
<1> (06:11pm) * TCA sets mode: +mi
<1> (06:11pm) * TCA goes back to bed
<1> (06:12pm) * X changes topic to '(toro) *spanks TCA*'
<1> (06:12pm) * X sets mode: +b *!*@*
<0> Perhaps he was just teasing.
<1> Uhm.
<1> (06:03pm) <sektie> hm.
<1> (06:03pm) <sektie> so you didn't quit.
<1> (06:04pm) <6> I did quit
<1> (06:04pm) <6> I started over
<1> (06:04pm) <6> With several months inbetween
<1> (06:05pm) * sektie decides she doesn't care any more.
<1> (06:05pm) * sektie has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)
<0> It isn't strange from where it's coming out.
<1> Maybe sektie made him remember something.
<1> (btw, I'm exe)
<0> I realized.
<2> mark is a weirdo, period
<0> I don't even know where (physically) does he live any longer
<0> Ci vediamo.
<2> who?
<1> Sigur Rs is nice
<3> hey guys
<3> can someone explain a stack frame?
<3> is it just a function loaded into the stack?
<1> No :_/
<1> You create a stack frame when you call a function.
<1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stack_frame
<3> lol i'm reading that wikibook right now
<3> good intro to asm you think?
<3> thanks vann
<3> it's amazing how much more understandable C becomes wheny ou start to learn asm
<1> Yes.
<3> i don't even know C and it's starting to make sense
<3> by the way, what does the registers stand for
<3> like ebp and the others wiki use?
<1> extended base pointer
<1> extended stack pointer
<3> esp points to the current address being read, correct?
<1> it points to the top of the stack
<3> always?
<3> ohhh ok
<3> that's why the use (esp + 8) to read from different values?
<3> correct?
<1> Yes.
<3> ok ok
<3> everything's coming together lol
<3> thanks
<3> now what is the ebp for?
<1> it points to the base of the stack
<3> what's the "base"?
<1> when you call other function, you'll probably change the "base"
<1> you habe top data base
<1> have
<3> ok
<1> Grr, I need to do a curriculum vit.
<3> what's that?
<1> Uhm, something wheere you put all your information
<1> bleh, time to sleep.
<1> natta.
<4> manager change ?
<5> TCA
<5> !
<6> hi
<7> Question about IDA...I dis***emble a file, and save it. Why does it bitch and moan when I try to open a database file about it being of type t4A? I dis***embled it as an 8086
<7> No takers?
<8> hey people
<9> hey
<7> Hey is fer herses
<7> You two hepcats know anything about using IDA?
<9> ask the herses
<7> They didn't know when I asked them last time =P
<8> ask hepcat
<7> I would, except he don't know no asm.
<7> In lieu of that, do either of you two know much about using IDA
<8> MarchHare : what do u wanted to know about IDA?
<7> Quick question about it. Giving me a bit of a problem opening a file it saved.
<7> I save a database, and when I try to reopen it, it refuses, stating it doesn't have a module for a t4A processor. The original dis***embly was vanilla 16-bit 8086, straight binary.
<8> could be bug in IDA ?
<8> since, IDA never thought some rare human like you will be dis***embling 8086 stuffs?
<7> It seems to handle everything else fine.
<7> Gets the opcodes right and all.
<7> I'm examining a boot sector from a disc, to see how it works.
<7> So it necessarily would be in 8086
<8> MarchHare : you could use DOG debug.exe to dis***emble :)
<7> I could, but that makes it a little tricky to do things like labels and realignment.
<7> Realignment is why I moved from ndisasmw...
<8> true
<7> I confirmed the opcodes with debug.exe
<7> Same for ndisasmw and IDA
<7> The big problem is setting a label somewhere based on a jump, then having to realign, and finding out that jump wasn't actually there.
<7> That can usually be cleared by knowing where all the data sections are, right?
<8> Did you tried checking settings in IDA?
<8> and why it is asking about t4A processor ?
<7> I don't know why it's asking about a t4A. I've never even heard of it.
<8> you could check in settings of IDA ?
<7> If I knew why it wanted a t4A instead of an 8086, I'd know.
<7> Seems to be based on the file. There aren't a lot of settings I know about yet. I'm still learning the ropes.
<8> :D
<7> I figured I'd be smart to start with a relatively simple piece of binary, like a boot loader.
<7> I've never really tried to reverse engineer anything like this. It's a lot of fun.
<8> sure, if you are ready to take pain. its fun.
<7> It keeps me up really, really late. I like it.
<7> It's a challenge. I need a good challenge.
<7> Makes me a better programmer, too.
<8> thats right
<8> Meanwhile, if you are involved in developing somethig in ***embly. That will give better understanding in Reversing things.
<7> Reversing it makes me figure out what a bunch of movs and jmps are doing. I get a little bit better at reading things.
<7> Well, I've written some really basic ***embly stuff, if that helps.
<7> I know how to call functions, and all.
<7> Velkommen bacl.
<8> tanks
<7> I reckon I should go to bed now. I've been going to sleep way too late lately.
<7> I'll have to see who might be able to help me with my issue with IDA
<8> :)
<10> most likely IDA is going to dis***emble 16bit code wrong
<10> TCA is back :)
<6> :)
<11> ?? ircop
<12> Oh, I forgot the answer
<13> TCA?
<6> Yes?
<13> jeg snakker norsk n!
<11> flink du er :D
<11> silje thought you?
<13> Yup, Silje and Toro are helping me.
<13> TCA are you going to stay with us?
<11> he is never leaving!
<13> rofl.
<13> Who are you Trixs?
<13> Does anyone play Codewars?
<13> toro.
<14> exe :D
<13> How are you?
<14> okey i guess, and you?
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