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<0> ummmmm ok whatever dude
<1> for instances
<0> then you know.
<1> i'm the host of 245 websites
<0> Here you want to over load your server for no reason.
<1> so i can't modify their files for them
<1> it's way too much work
<0> I will tell you how to run a zillion instances of apache.
<0> .
<1> mail server take the id sent by apache
<0> Stop talking so I can answer your question instead of helping you.
<1> and it seem it's the group that the server use
<0> Stop talking so I can answer your question instead of helping you.
<1> ok go ahead..
<0> ****



<0> phone, its my girl...
<0> bbiaf.
<0> like 3-15
<0> hehe
<1> ??
<0> Ok sorry.
<0> I am back. I dont mean to chastize you though. I know what I am saying. I know what you are saying. However, to run apache multiple times... Give me two mintues to prepare
<0> Are you installing from source I take it ?
<0> And what EXACT OS ?>
<0> Also, there are many inherint problems with running multiple instances of apache....
<0> apachectl by default will only start one instance, you'd need to
<0> > fiddle with that or start apache by calling httpd directly.
<0> The ports database will already see the first apache as being installed, so you'd have to force package register the second one.
<0> You need to use Jails.
<0> You have to have different ports for each apache.
<0> So 1st things first. Install all your instances of apache, then configure each vhost, specifiy seperate log files, pids, and ports. Make sure to install with the --prefix=/jail option and read up on how to properly secure and maintain Jails. Next create a script for all your apache instances. And add it to rc.conf
<0> ORRRRRRRRRRR
<0> You could just change the ****ing script.
<0> Do you have a mail server setup on this ?
<0> How many domains do you have ?
<0> What OS is this ?
<0> Ok I am done. Either you think I am dumb, dont believe me, or dont care. I am over it. This is why people get so cynical while helping people in rooms like this.
<1> sorry was reading
<0> BTW apache doesnt send mail dude. Sendmail does or PHP does.
<0> Or some other MTA
<0> By itself apache doesnt send any mail.
<1> well yes
<0> So now that we have thoughly wasted time.... are you ready to solve your issue.
<1> but it still give an user-id to the smtp
<0> And you are saying you have 245 domains and you are asking questions like this BS
<0> You still have not answered my questions
<0> gosh twkm XineAnn someone please
<0> Do you have a mail server setup on this ?
<0> How many domains do you have ?
<0> What OS is this ?
<1> i'm using Debian GNU/Linux with Postfix
<1> sarge modified with custom packages including mysql 5 and apache 2
<1> compiled by the hand
<0> So you are saying that rather than changing the script, 240 times ONE time forever, is worse than doing all of the above.
<0> then have at it
<1> so after reading, what is jails ?
<0> good grief dude, go read some more, and build a working fully functional mail server and fix that damn script.
<0> you dont need 240 ****ing apache instances
<1> i did not said that, i did said that if you had a proper method to do it, told me sorry if i was miunderstood.
<0> .
<0> ...
<1> calm your horses, i'm not being agressive to you
<0> Explain you mail server ?
<1> POSTFIX again
<0> What is the configurationg of that mail server
<0> I know it is ****ing postfix.
<0> I am not being agressive, just frustrated.
<1> accepting no relays only sending mail from the computer where it's installed
<0> I know you are not being agressive too.
<1> nothing really fancy
<1> a basic install ..
<0> So you use Postfix as your MTA you have no other LDA, SMTP, POP, virus, spam nothing.
<0> Do you use postfix for smtp ?



<0> obviously.
<1> qpopper for pop
<1> postfix for smtp
<0> Now we are getting somewhere.
<1> no anti virus / spam fighter
<1> (yet)
<0> Now explain EXACTLY what mail you are talking about and EXACTLY what field you intend to change. One more time for clarification
<0> In ONE paragraph please.
<1> i'm intending to replace the default serveradmin mail or www-data (or whatever group the apache will use) to use mail of the user running a defined virtual host BECAUSE i don't want the server to send a quite anonymous mail and i want the user to be identified formerly by his email (if a mail is sent from the webhost vhost 1 defined as 1 then only the user 1 is supposed to send the mail)
<1> sorry if it seem a bit confused i tried to explain it fully
<1> :)
<0> I know. You did better this time :)
<0> Ok. Here is the deal. I would now have to see the script you are using. All I know is NONE of my emails from any of my cgi or php scripts have any information that doesnt look formal. I build my scripts to include all the necessary header information.
<0> You need to re-write that script to include the proper header information, ie: the from and subject field
<0> Now automated SERVER responses are further defined in apache, and MAY be able to be defined inside the virtual host.
<0> Could you show me a copy of an email you are talking about so I can further clarify your issue.
<1> as an addendum
<1> i don't run any scripts myself
<1> users do
<0> http://pastebin.com paste it here.
<1> k hold on
<0> So, it is not your issue.
<1> yes it is, as they do use my http server
<0> tell them to fix their damn script and it will send properly. :)
<1> problem is there is too many users
<0> Yeah if you have that many domains that is a lot of users.
<1> many of them will just use a basic script preformatted and will not matter of doing it
<1> here an example mail :
<1> (when pahttp://pastebin.ca/75287
<0> I understand what you are saying.
<0> From: www-data <www-data@uo.is-a-geek.net>
<0> and...
<0> Received: from www-data by serveur.ano-lasthope.org with local (Exim 4.62)
<0> (envelope-from <www-data@uo.is-a-geek.net>)
<0> hmmmmmmmm
<0> Is there ANY way to see some of the script ?
<1> yup of course
<0> I dont want to infringe
<1> but the script use no variables
<0> But that would be the only way I could help at this point.
<1> it's an example script written for the demo purpose
<1> (not specifying the sender)
<0> So this is the script they are using ?
<0> This 'demo' script ?
<0> Wouldn't it be this easy frantik, make a new 'demo script' and email to all your clients and tell them this is a "Free Update"
<1> well
<0> With instructions for exactly where it goes.
<1> actually they use alot of different scripts
<0> Well all of them should be able to define the from field !?!
<1> from phpbb, phpnuke, oscommerce to written by hands
<1> yes
<1> some do
<1> alot don't
<1> and alot do spams because the mail functions doesn't restrict
<1> s/functions/function
<0> So you are saying that instead of making this a clients issue, you are taking it upon yourself to have a catch all
<0> ?
<1> yes
<1> but not to a fixed adress, this could be replaced easily
<1> but the problem will not be solved
<0> There has to be an ingenious way to do this.
<0> I dont know man. I wonder if there is a directive for the virtual host container that will enforce your 'catch all' dreams :)
<0> Here is how I would ask your question....
<1> well actually i think i'll code back mail function
<1> from scratch
<1> seem it's the only way
<0> I have over 200 users using all sorts of whack scripts, I want a way to define all FROM fields for each vhost, right now any script that does not have a from field defined will default to the apache user 'www-data'. I want a catch all so all my dumb clients will still have a proper from field in all of their mail? Any ideas.
<0> That is the only thing I was thinking of...
<0> I thought if you took all the mail and sent it though a filter, which may exsit already, then sent it on its way, you would be in shape.
<0> However, I dont see where you will obtain the data for each host. This script would have to include that or there would have to be a vhost directive, in which case the script is obsolete.
<1> yes that's a good way to ask
<0> Thats all the help I can muster.


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