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<0> any FEMALE from pakistan
<1> oh yes.... i can move to the child hood... when i get high....;)
<2> I said; the time is not existing, so it's useles to run it to any direction!
<1> come on Areis...u seem desperate !
<3> smoking the herb does NOT count as reversing time ;)
<3> But still, schmoke on ;)
<1> so what is ur opinion r3dux...is time an existing entity or something else ...??
<3> zero: I said time does exist, and you're late...
<3> I thought time was an emergent property of m***
<1> hey Zeromark... so what is time ... a relativity ??
<2> brb
<3> This is where ppl from #physics or something would come in so useful
<3> Do you reckon we can ask one to come here?
<1> u r the one !
<3> I could try
<1> i m person of computer science
<4> alemdar14218@hotmail.com
<1> r3dux,, i dont think something called time exists...its a measurement... u get out out of the solar system.. and there is no time.
<1> time is dependent upon the planets and sun... out of them.. what's there ??
<1> r3dux.....knock, knock ...!
<3> Satti - I've just gone and asked nicely!
<1> ???
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<6> 16.m.canada with pic here
<7> sali
<8> ping m
<3> Hey Intanjir! Wasme :)
<9> hi
<10> hello
<3> <1> r3dux,, i dont think something called time exists...its a measurement... u get out out of the solar system.. and there is no time.
<3> wasme/intanjir > Can we think of a logical argument against this?
<3> (just starting you off on the easy stuff, fellas ;) )
<10> what do you mean by outside of the solar system there is no time? if you have a clock it is still going to tick no matter where you are
<1> r3dux.. so is it agreed that time is a relative measurement which can be non existent in conditions
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<9> Well, its like saying there's no such thing as 'length.'
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<3> Yakety > we can fix you.
<11> bla bla :D
<9> Ultimately weither or not any particular dimension 'really exists or not' is sort of a silly question. They're useful, they're measurable ... what more do you want?
<1> come on r3dux,, having a clock dosen't mean that time exists... the time measures the revolving of the earth.. 24 hours.. means on rotation.. when you are out of the system what will u measure ??
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<10> how about the rate of radioactive decay of Cesium?
<11> bla!
<3> wasme > Don't worry about that, let's move on to the next one.
<12> hi
<1> hi reah.. welcome here !
<11> bla bla bla reah?
<3> Intanjir > When out of the solar system, or in deep space, or under my pillow, Cesium will still decay at the element's half-life.
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<9> Note that time is a mesaure of any change ... not just the earth's rotation. The only way time becomes unmeasurable is if your in a universe which is 100% changeless.
<3> wasme/Intanjir > Chances of life in the universe? Slim? None? Or are we being arrogant?
<9> We don't have a large enough sample size to make a conclusion about that ::)
<1> wasme> yes i agree... wasme
<4> alemdar14218@hotmail.com
<3> wasme.Untranjir > Is time dependent on m***?
<13> chances of life in the universe... 100%
<9> I ***ume he meant 'life outside of earth' ::)
<3> lol jack_e > I meant extra-solar system
<10> the chances are very good for life existing somewhere in the universe besides here... a better question might wonder about just in our galaxy
<9> time dependent on m***? in what way? ... I mean, sort of ... GR and all ... you have a lot of m*** somewhere time will go slower.
<3> wasme > no m***, no time?
<3> quantum fluctuations etc count obv
<9> oh, well, no ... you don't need m*** to measure time ... take Einstien's 'light clock'
<1> wasme> actually r3dux.. use a term infinite time... i argument is .. is there any chance of infinite time ?
<9> infinite time?
<3> satti > I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer. And the heat-death of the universe scares me.
<10> if you were riding along on a lightwave, time wouldn't seem to p*** at all
<3> That twists my melon (to quote the Happy Mondays) - so would you be there forever... and ever... and ever... [if you COULD be there...]
<1> r3dux> yes. the death of the universe.. we have no example of infinite time.. on the basis of which u were supporting the theory of evolution
<10> r3dux, you would be there for the smallest instant you could imagine
<3> Evolution does not depend upon infinite time, it merely depends of genetic mutation over long periods of time
<10> if time doesn't p*** for some period, and then it starts p***ing again, well it isn't like you were growing impatient in the meantime...
<3> lol
<14> ?
<12> hi
<9> hi
<1> r3dux> how long periods of time ??
<3> Intanjir > as a personal opinion, do you believe in evolution? Or do you perhaps favour Intelligent Design? Or don't know/don't care?
<3> Satti > hundreds of millions of years.
<9> how long for what?
<3> A genetic trait, say a gene, to become, and then become active and show a survival advantage
<1> r3dux> Darwin is largely criticised and the theory fails to provide concrete evidence uptill now !
<10> well, what do we mean by evolution? should i take that to mean something synonymous with natural selection? darwin's theory? or should i take evolution to just be the simple interpretation of the fossil record crossreferenced with what we know about geological strata?
<9> how long for evolution? one generation ... evolution is the change of ali frequency between generations ... there is a change in ali frequency between every generation.
<3> natural selection will be the easiest to work with
<14> bai care e cel mai smecher de aici?
<15> yo ba c vrei?
<9> Maybe your asking for how long before speciation ... well, that depends on a lot of factors. It could be a handful of generations, or could be hundreds or thousands. Or maybe your asking for how long to get from the Last Common Anscestor to what we have now ... well, obviously the answer to that is about 4 billion years.
<3> One animal, with sharper teeth, or faster legs, will win out over another, hence that genetic material will go forward
<14> u mah?
<15> da me]
<14> k
<15> care-i problema ta?
<14> sa t cred?
<15> zi kr e problema ta/
<15> ?
<14> nik
<15> vrei bataie?
<1> r3dux> that means the species with weak teeth and weak body should vanish ultimately... but the exist
<14> u de unde esti?
<15> buc
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<9> different species inhabit different enviromental niches ... different niches select for different traits. There is no such thing as 'the ultimate species'
<14> cati ani ai?
<3> Satti > not at the same time in competition with the better carnovore they won't
<3> Okay, the big questions - life, the universe, everything? Whence forth?
<15> 27
<15> tu?
<14> 17
<16> hfhjiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
<10> there are a lot of evolutionary forces besides just natural selection. Genetic Drift is a big one.
<15> shi t dai shmeker?
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<16> tyu
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<14> nu am nevoie sa ma dau
<15> shi at kr e rostul intrebarii?
<17> selam
<15> "kr e cel mai shmeker d aici?"
<3> Single word answers only: wasme/Intanjir: Cyclic big bang, single bang then heat-death, or repeated bangs over trillion year periods - If you had to die tomorrow, and had to put your hat on one, which would it be?
<14> ma plictis si nu aveam cu cine sa vb
<14> si asa rsp cine
<9> not enough information
<14> cineva
<3> A true scientists answer ;)
<1> sigle ban then heat death
<10> I'm still holding out for steady-state :)
<3> What about a hunch?
<3> haha
<3> But how? Onlyu hawking radiation comes from nothing =/ confuused!
<10> i'm serious. i don't think we have a clue about cosmology.
<9> if our observations of an accelerating rate of expansion are correct then cyclical seems ... unlikely. But there are still versions (like the 'colliding branes' idea) which would make it possible ... in the end though, we basicly have no idea and a wild guess on my part would be about as likely to be correct as a chicken pecking on a keyboard is likely to be.
<1> that's pessimistic Intanjir
<3> So when Socrates said we were dust in the wind, we still are...
<9> Intanjir: oh, I think we have a clue ... but we certainly are still far from the full story.
<10> science isn't well equipped to investigate cosmology. there is no hope for experimentation. every observation is hopelessly theoryladen and there is no way to see outside the paradigm here.
<3> <buk-ark> %
<3> =P
<9> all observation, even experimental observation, is theory-laden
<10> it happens by degree, far more so for cosmology
<1> Intanjir>that's not limited to cosmology only... u can expand it over evolution also
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