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<0> I don't want to agree because I feel bad for Gt fighting a losing corner he believes is right, but the facts are, I think there's some truth in what you said. <1> do yu guys honestly believe there is no God <0> Agnostic means = no conclusive proof either way <2> hey come on GT500 , i m a believer , who said i m not ! <0> Aethist means there is no god <1> what do you believe in <2> so, in which category do u fall r3dux <2> i believe in Allah <0> I'm Agnostic, Satti <2> that <2> is a safe corner r3dux <0> 2 ways of thinking about it <1> me and <0> true until proven false <0> or false until proven true <0> I'm with "false until proven true".
<1> Me and Satti come a long way in our faith not true? satti <0> Occams Razors forces me along this path. <2> dont, you think this shows a confused state on mind, not been able to decide about obvious <0> #No <1> you guys are talking in riddles? <0> I am simply stating that without proof or likelihood there is nothing. <0> This is logically sound. <0> It's religion itself which demands faith <0> faith being the suspension of disbelief <2> i m also a logical person,,, r3dux, but i do know some time logic fails, x-factor comes in, what's that ,,,, coincident <0> I refuse to suspend my belief, and will lead my life to the best of my ability, but if good or bad things happen, I won't blame them on some mythical supernatural entitiy. <2> GT500, by saying that trying to prove God is a mistake, i mean that you cannot prove God, you have to feel him <2> and your whole life ,,, what is it,,, a universal accidental creation ??? <2> what is the purpose of life,,, from where life comes in.....? <2> there are questions r3dux ! <0> The purpose of MY life? <0> haha <2> and should i tell <2> ?? <0> Isn't that the kicker? There IS no purpose but to p*** on my DNA <3> helo satti... <2> get paid, get laid, and be happy...how <2> is that <4> ok let me share this...if u ppl may allow. its like saying this computer and keyboard you are typing now doesnt have a creator... i mean nobody made it? so with all the things around you? <0> You're ***igning meaning to nature. Nature has no need of it. <2> hey GT5000. are u there ?? <3> hello satti... :) <0> Nature rolls up-hill - because the genetic mutations that are positive survive, and the one's that don't die out <2> hi Saint_MAc <1> God has revealed himself to both believers and unbelievers . evedence of gods own work is all around us denying his existence is denying the obvious. there is something great out there!!!! <3> girl u...? <3> hi r3dux...!! <0> Gt500 > There is a whole universe that you'll never explore. <0> Gt500 > Why do you think God created you? (considering you're just aren't the product of your parents DNA) <2> yes Nature rolls up,,,, but why some times nature rolls in opposite direction... a person with small head,,disability.... this can be just genetic defects of the DNA right r3dux ! <4> Gt500 i agree... its like the law of gravity, love, air that we breath... it has not been seen by anyone but we believe in their existence <1> the problem getting to know what i was not supposed to know but to get to know what is already revealed <0> yes, Satti. And if you say disabled people are disabled because they did something bad in a past life I'll be upset with your thinking <2> no, i m not claiming that ! <2> my point is,,, there exists a force who sometimes alters the nature !! <0> Your talking about the rainbow serpent! <0> It's magic! <0> Anything you can't understand or we can't understand is MAGIC! <5> im here! <2> come now, r3dux,,, be logical ! <0> When we DO understand - what then? <2> welcome julianna !! <6> sal <6> CE FACETI ? <0> no, lei verebbe bere qualcosa? <2> do u think its just magic that so many planets are revolving around there orbits to the exactness of nano inches <7> goiod morning <2> its for r3dux ! <4> hi poy <0> Satti > That's the nature of the universe - there is no place they SHOULD be, so don't say "they're exactly in place to nanometers" <2> from where u r GT500 ?? <2> r3dux>and the creation of this universe.... do u buy the theory of Big BAn <8> tyutyuty <8> uty <8> uyt
<8> uty <1> Satti> It is clear that r3dux has made his decision. Although I do not agree with it , it is still better than never making one. I respect his decision. It does allow us to descriminate or judge. r3dux still regarded as friend! <8> uyp[ <0> Satti > Although I will grant you that the cosmological constants are so finely tuned that a single small change would result in a universe that could not support life <1> does not allow us to discriminate or judge. Sorry typo <9> hey there all men <9> lol <2> where u r leaning to r3dux ? <0> But then there's the theory of multiple big-bangs, not big-bang/big-crunch/repeat <9> for reel thougfh <10> ***.wr.wb <11> hi all <12> iiiiiiiii <0> Satti > Italian you mean? <7> hi emi asl <2> GT500, yes surely r3dux is our great friend,,,its just a chit chat..u know the good think about r3dux is , he is agnostic,, not non believer ! <0> Oh > Where am I learning <11> 17 m <12> 23 f n u <2> r3dux,, not learning,...leaning <0> Satti > I read. Stephen hawkink, Paul Smith/Jones?, A-Level physics, teh Interweb <0> oh f**** <0> leaning? <11> sunt ceva fete frumoase care doresc sa vorbeaska? <0> Satti > Are you asking me what I think will really be the case based on my present knowlege? <2> r3dux....related to creations..do u justify the theory of evolution ?? <11> bi turk varmi burda <2> i mean,, why is it sotpped now.. is the creations perfected ? <0> Evolution justifies and will prove itself, "Intelligent Design" is like Intelligent Falling Down Stairs <13> hey people <2> i m not getting it <5> dont chat to mr_WHO <2> hey.... <5> if you want to live <2> why julianna ?? <0> It hasn't stopped, who said it's stopped, why do you think it's stopped? <2> from the know 5000 years old history of man... man is not evolved further to something else ?/ <13> interesting <2> from the known <2> r3dux can u give me any example of visible evolution ?? <0> Satti > The thing you have to do here is "think big".... how old is this planet 6- Billion years? How long does it take for a genetic mutation to occur (i.e. one result == MANY random genetic mutations) and make things better? <0> It's like a million monkeys with type-writers... when they write the first act of MacBeth, and all the Monkeys who now know MacBeth are better for it, they carry on, and it starts again... <2> why are u dragging shakespere into this....;) <0> The author I meant to reccomend to you is: Paul Davies <2> i was referring to the character Macbeth <0> Because there's a famous quote about if you give a million monkeys infinite time, will they write shakespear? <2> actually r3dux,,, it is a never ending debate !! <0> Satti > Do you think they would? <0> "shakespeare" <0> even <2> no they wont' there capacity is limited <0> Forgive my stupidity, it's like spelling "genius" as "genious" <0> satti! <0> Ha! <0> Wrong!! <0> Infinite time, baby! <0> This is your incapacity to Think Big <2> hey, why dont u think that there is nothing like infinite time... you dont have infinite time.. no body had <0> It's a mathematical certainty that given enough time they will. In your face ;) <2> infinite time finally leads to nothingness <0> Well, we don't know that. Could be a cyclic universe, could be something quite else, if you've been reading the recent theory of bangs but no crunches, it's a 100 billion year click <0> or more <0> I think it was some insane big number <2> the monkeys can reproduce the whole work of shakespear but they cannot think like shakespear <0> Satti > Now - does it matter? <2> 100 billion years....its not infinite time... there is nothing like infinite time ... <2> i insist ! <14> even the other ppl can think like shakespear! (or me) :) <2> u r greater than him zeromark... how its going ?? <0> Satti > It was > 100 billion, it was some crazy number, I can't find the article tho, cos lots of wired articles use "universe" ""big-bang" etc in them <14> there is not time at all existing, there is only limitation for different happenings! ;) <0> Can you run time backwards, zeromark? <0> Can I unmake my decisions, can I unmake yours? <15> any FEMALE from pakistan
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