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<0> re
<1> wb
<0> hi obert :o)
<1> hi sun
<1> how are u?
<2> grooo
<1> grooo to u too destr
<0> obert: fine till now
<0> hi destr
<1> i'm searching for some good links about usability
<0> obert: what is the question you want the links to answer ?
<1> just to know the basics
<1> and some cl***ic secrets to make one page nice
<2> colours
<0> there was a great tool for colours
<0> named slugs :o)



<2> the elements placing
<1> mmm
<2> font and text-size
<1> the space between the divs?
<2> well more like where do you place your navigation and how easy and obvious it is to the user
<1> positionin the elements with an architecture
<2> same for content and other elments
<2> elements*
<1> is that usability? like next button positioned always in the same point?
<1> *place
<0> the main thing in my opinion is, to make websites usable even if there is no js, flash or even java workin on client-side
<0> and that page looks same (or nearly) in every browser
<1> architecture of the informations is a method to arrive to the usability, then?
<1> mmm isn't accessibility this?
<0> else it should be like that: do not let the user move mouse-cursor too far
<1> ah that's important true
<0> so, if someone gets your page with google, menu should be directly where user clicked
<0> as well as you have to have clear design
<1> mmhm
<0> meanin user looks onto page and knows where the content is and where the menus are
<0> no overloaded pages where you have to look on for seconds to find out where to read/click
<1> eh colours, like a background-color:dark and contents white
<0> and... no frames at all
<1> oh hell;)
<0> and... if possible... no scrollbars
<1> w3.org?
<2> scrolling is ok
<2> but only vertical
<0> obert: for example, but too much contrast is also not good
<0> destr: yeah, but if possible to come along without
<0> destr: you don't have to put more content on the page than needed
<1> why not good?
<0> obert: cause too much contrast means you have a clear design, but page looks ****
<0> and that gets the user off, too
<0> obert: we are tryin to do that with our page...
<1> body background-color:#000; #content background-color:#fafafa;
<0> if you like -> www.ceb-systems.de
<2> quite comfortable site
<0> thx
<0> :o)
<2> a bit plain, but good
<1> mmm body background and content are the same
<1> u just know where contents are cause it's big enough in the center
<0> obert: see?
<1> mmmm
<1> and if someone search for menu, he'll find it quick
<0> obert: but you dont have to stick on this
<0> there are different examples
<1> yup, it's to understand why it's wrote as now
<0> obert: ask destr for some urls of his pages ;o)
<1> destr can u send me some urls of your pages, please?:)
<1> anyway ceb system is a clean design mmm
<2> i don't have much to show really, but here's a site i participated in: www.sol-kaihdin.fi
<1> thanks,9
<2> not a big fan of it though
<2> great design is easy to spot, but much harder to come up with.
<1> mmmm
<1> well it looks as well at 800x600 too
<1> big enought
<1> but still no body background:dark, contents white;)
<1> we baldido



<1> gnite
<3> nite
<2> nite b
<1> wb
<4> tnx
<1> yw
<4> time to try Flex Builder
<4> time for tea
<5> one for me plz
<5> the usual :)
<4> I already loaded the infuser with english breakfast :)
<5> thanks, if you can spare one for me..
<5> I have to get going in a few mins...
<5> dr appt
<4> oh
<5> finger from Sun night...
<4> at 1 in the night?? ;)
<4> finger?
<4> what happened?
<5> well... twas at soccer... but just before the game started :(
<5> lol
<4> ...
<5> while warming up..
<5> ball hit my finger...
<5> black and blue in parts..
<5> hope it's not broken
<5> no, it's not broken.. it might be fractured though..
<5> that's why I'm not typing as fast...
<4> :(
<0> re
<4> wb
<6> 'morning
<4> damn
<4> indeed it is
<6> sup?
<6> lol
<4> one more cup of tea, then bed
<6> having too much fun hey?
<6> My first cup for the day
<6> Hey greatSUN, all good, and you were correct
<6> Pro, GreatSUN corrected my mis-interpretations of Multipart mail. The content of each boundary type reside in the body.
<4> right
<6> lol
<6> was there a hint of sarcasm in the air?
<4> more a case of having nothing to say on the subject
<6> heh
<6> and I also learnt that " and ' aren't the same in php
<6> In double quotes variables are evaluated
<1> we
<6> weeeeeeeee!
<1> lol blis
<6> :)
<1> ok just another day and my dl will finish
<1> i love false 128k connection speed;)
<4> :)
<5> beer at this time of the day?
<6> heya Arj
<5> finger is better.. he looked at it and said 'it will get better I hope'
<5> I love doctors :)
<5> hey blis
<6> :)
<4> haha
<4> how much did that cost ya?
<5> bulk billed.. the govt pays..
<5> which ends up costing us anyways I guess..
<5> love it
<4> ok
<4> we pay a... base sum
<4> similar to what you're deducted when insurance companies pay out insurances
<4> not sure what it's called
<6> we pay a levy for medicare.. a minimum payment to support the gov't systems
<6> It's removed from our tax each year
<5> aye
<6> Pro.. do u pay tax as u go? or is it deducted from your wages?


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