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<0> i have kicked in debian on drives using less then 200 mb..
<0> i like gentoo - but using this much space... stage3 took 300 mb
<1> humm
<1> didn't ever have a look on disk-usage
<2> well, you have all those header files installed
<2> you don't need those with non-source based distro
<1> yep
<1> source takes far more space than actual code
<0> i have found manual on how to strip the portage tree too
<0> hmm i will move the portage to a another disk later on
<0> hm
<3> portage is best with reiserfs partition
<3> because reiserfs better handle little files
<1> i have reiserfs on /usr /opt /var /tmp and /home
<0> hmm
<0> ill do like this



<1> my /boot is ext2, the rest on / is ext3
<0> i will install gentoo for a start and see where it leads me
<0> then i can just tar and gzip it and save it for later use if i want to revert
<3> I don't have /boot... I have / and /home. Both in reiserfs :P and I have portage on NFS import
<0> hmm
<1> I have a lot of harddisk, and I wanted to play a bit with lvm..
<0> well Openslug only supports ext2, ext3 and reiserfs
<0> yeah there is never enough room 8 )
<1> my /boot is a seperate partition, /is 10GB raid1
<1> and the rest goes for lvm
<3> why a raid1 of your / ? not for your personal files ?
<3> you can always get / back
<1> well
<1> I backup important files regularly
<1> and if my huge mp3-collection goes to bofh to hell
<1> I simply rip my cd's again
<1> but I need my system reliable
<1> it's not just me working on it
<3> If one of your hd fails, time to get the raid up again is not equals 0
<3> so.. in that case, why not emerge everything again ?
<0> why not use g4unix?
<3> just backup your /etc and your world file
<1> g4unix?
<1> I just did an emerge -e
<1> I still have the opportunity
<0> http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/
<0> phone
<1> to put in some important home-directories on a seperate raid1
<1> oh great
<1> should try that
<1> hmm perhaps a raid would be the best choice for all the system
<1> except my personal "unimportant" /home
<3> so, it's a ghost tool, with ftp
<3> seems useless with a gentoo system.. as it evolves too much as days p***es
<1> hmmm
<1> having a snapshot
<1> would help sometimes
<1> but I always used tar to do backups
<3> for a developper.. yes
<1> or if you try something
<3> yeah, write a small script with tar and ftp commands.. and you got your g4unix :P
<1> yes ;)
<3> if you want to try something... be a barbarian ;) don't backup !
<3> if something fails.. just undo what you've done
<3> (emerge -C && emerge --depclean)
<1> which filesystem would you use for a collection of mp3s and only some files with bigger (or smaller) size?
<4> hi!
<5> hi.
<1> hi there
<5> y helo thar
<1> !y?
<5> o rly?
<6> hi
<1> anyone got an idea what will happen if I chmod +x /proc/kcore && cat /dev/urandom >/proc/kcore?
<1> will it be writable, or is it protected?
<1> I'll try this, later..
<4> hi
<4> I've got really great problem with charsets
<4> more precisely with hungarian character sets and mysql
<4> perhaps anyone?
<1> what about unicode?



<6> semir, shoot
<6> or wait, i'll get my crystal ball!
<4> :)
<4> great, can u see it now?
<6> see what?
<4> metaller: unicode as utf8?
<1> I could ask the palantir.. but who know's who's watching then..
<1> yes semir
<6> this is more a #mysql issue then a #gentoo issue
<4> tibyke: in your crystal ball... :)
<4> perhaps,
<6> get to the point at last
<4> but I ve got something strange with charsets in my system too
<4> I dont have those strange hungarian letters
<4> insted I got ??? mostly or more strange 4 letter letters :)
<6> first figure out if its a system issue or a mysql issue.
<1> I decided to do a simple reinstall.. as my users have some time until my machine is used.. so that would be the simplest way..
<6> semir, that should be a system issue, not a mysql issue (or maybe both)
<1> yes, sounds like that
<4> I believe both could be
<6> lets sort out the first one
<1> mysql might be affected because of the system-issue
<6> how is your consolefont set up? and your unicode usage?
<4> as the php script that used mysql is continously tested from a winsux machine too
<6> gentoo mysql defaults to utf8
<4> yes
<6> semir, one at a time!
<6> check out /etc/conf.d/consolefont
<4> yes Im doing
<6> and also /etc/rc.conf for UNICODE="yes" or "no"
<4> no
<4> unicode no
<4> but :
<6> thats ok
<6> and consolefont?
<4> consolefont: lat2_16
<4> and console trans
<6> thats cool
<6> same here
<4> cp1250_to_uni
<6> i have latin2u
<4> latin to me? :)
<4> I believe I tried that
<6> latin2 is iso88592
<6> and you are from there
<4> but did not work, although it worked on a previous install, if I remember well
<4> iso8859-2
<4> yes
<6> sec
<6> i guess i fidgeted it
<4> still hates me :)
<6> it could be iso_8859_2_2_uni, or something
<6> sec
<6> 8859-2_to_uni
<6> this is it
<4> yes I am familiar with it, too :)
<6> and still no good?
<4> still, nothing could beat cp1250_to_uni
<6> how is your locale?
<4> but, a sec, and I'll have a try
<6> you can restart /etc/init.d/consolefont
<4> locale? its a m*** ...
<6> im on gentoo default mysql settings (utf8) with latin2 (8859-2) fonts, and mysql special hungarian accented characters work like a charm
<4> fff, it do really hates me, it keeps telling me that there is no such a thing as iso8859-2_to_uni...
<6> 8859-2_to_uni
<6> literally
<4> however, it works...
<6> CONSOLETRANSLATION="8859-2_to_uni"
<6> what works?
<4> works just as good as the previous
<4> that is why I tried it out again
<4> sometimes things change after an update
<4> :)
<6> you must be missing something


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