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<0> bye
<1> how can i make my program use the ncurses headers/libs from /libdir1 rather thatn /libdir2 if they exist in both dirs ?
<1> i have headers i need in both dirs tho, but i want to only use curses.h from one of them
<2> _sparky: probably you can do it with linker script
<2> but -L searches in the order how did you specified in the commandline as i know
<3> sry
<1> hmm now i get:
<1> /usr/include/curses.h:159: error: redefinition of `struct _win_st'
<1> /opt/csw/include/ncurses/curses.h:348: error: previous definition of `struct _win_st'
<1> i just want to use /opt/csw/include/ncurses/curses.h grrrrr!!
<1> anyone? :(
<4> moin
<5> morning
<4> http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/31455.aspx
<5> as far as i can read, they alredy answerd your issue
<5> you can simply use n % 2



<4> I'm happy that you have leart smth today azi, but that wasn't mine, and you see, how can I explain it to you, mhm, it is fun site, you know ppl are posting some funny thing from it world, and I just have read that upper and pasted here, that wasn't mine, but I'm so happy becouse you learnt n%2 method of odd even check:) nice azi, dont give up
<6> haha
<6> moin
<4> moin
<5> vandaal: your reply ain't that original & funny tho ;(
<4> azi yes it is not, but you see, I had to defend;)
<5> yeah
<4> yep but yours was funny tho;p:))
<7> moin
<8> lo lorin
<7> yo thraddash!
<7> ltns
<7> 'sup?
<8> moved to .fi! :)
<7> is that an improvement? :-)
<8> yea well, I keep telling myself so
<9> "morning"
<8> I got employed by that company which does the cellphones
<8> yo Tobe
<9> so what do you do there, btw?
<8> uhm.. www.maemo.org
<9> ah
<9> nice
<7> .org? company?
<7> o tempora o mores! :-)
<8> well yea its kinda cool. Desktop linux just 'as is' on ARM cpu
<7> ah, the OS for the PDA-that-is-not-a-PDA
<8> like you buy the device, you get linux installed on it. And you can do pretty much everything with it then
<7> sounds nice
<7> you already got one of your own?
<8> not really 'own', but i have some to play with
<7> hehe
<8> well it is just awesome
<7> "some"
<8> like you kick out all the pre-installed crap and then build what you want and put on it
<7> hehe
<8> actually I have idea on making universal home control device with this thingie
<7> hardly
<8> it has wifi and stuff
<7> it isn't that it wasn't possible, but anyone who pays money for a cellphone will think thrice before "kicking out all the pre-installed crap" :-)
<8> well the entire product is targetted against the geek type
<7> is there a decent pdf reader for it?
<8> otherwise, why would you buy some linux device?
<7> because symbian keeps crashing? :-)
<9> heh
<8> there is a pdf reader, probably home-grown [but it open source anyway]
<8> the display is very nice.. but I think if you are going to use it just as ebook, you are on crack ;)
<7> heh
<8> you can recompile the kernel on the device itself!!! :D
<7> amazing
<7> there's nothing i wanted to do more
<7> how fast is it compared to pc-mhz?
<8> well its arm11, around 300mhz, there is a 400mhz version too
<8> arm11 is bloody fast
<7> moon phone?
<8> I think it is somewhere around.. pentium 166
<8> Nokia is very friendly towards open source community btw.
<8> all the stuff derived developed in house is sent back and/or put on sourceforge or whatever
<7> i've read that too
<7> in september my cellphone contract will expire
<7> i



<7> 'll be looking for a nokia this time
<7> since my conscience does not allow another sony :-)
<7> so be prepared for questions in winter :-)
<8> yea okay
<8> but I am not really big expert in symbian or other nokia phones
<8> you can ask about motorola though
<7> heh
<8> I used to work for ~2 years in it
<7> i had the L6 for a month since my own was sent to repair
<7> horrible
<8> uh-oh.. that p2k OS..
<7> never seen worse menu navigation
<7> motorola has been ruled out i guess
<8> well, menu navigation yea from customer point of view its crappy
<7> well, whose view is more important?
<8> but did you looked into the code? omg :)
<7> not because i'm the customer here
<7> hehe
<7> it's always the same with code you've written i guess
<8> well after working in motorola for a long while, I actually loose any kind of customer point of view on them ;)
<7> yeah
<8> I mean like, I used to have around 20 phones on my desk
<8> some of them are 'so pretty' as tester girls say
<8> but for me its just like a woroking thrash
<8> we used to flash phones quite often
<7> hehe
<8> in fact the design of entire os is that its not modular, so whatever you change a bit in your code, you have to recompile/relink everything. So you have to reflash the entire phone
<7> hehe
<7> the price of saving ram
<8> in a way
<8> but in practice, motorola is using the same OS since 1999. On arm11 you can have paging, virtual memory, everything
<7> just think how the c64-devs must have had to work :-)
<8> I mean you can afford it
<8> but we endup with the same os on arm11 devices
<8> so its like say hello to memory corruptions :) one app with wrong pointer arithmetics ruins your phone real quick :)
<7> are you talking about motorola or nokia now?
<7> i thought you were doing linux?
<8> well I left motorola and now I am putting crap on it :)
<7> hehe
<7> don't violate any NDAs :-)
<8> yea its like one guy said on public forum 'the os is crap'
<8> and he was fired
<8> guess why?
<8> 'NDA violation'
<8> :D
<7> hehe
<7> thraddie: if you didn't have "some" devices available at work, would you consider buying the 770?
<7> nokia shop says 349 EUR
<7> damn, O2 does not have it
<7> is there any other linux nokia yet?
<10> 770 is not a phone.
<10> e.t. wouldn't use it.
<7> lol
<7> not a phone like in "you can't do phonecalls" or "it won't fit anywhere where you normally have your cellphone"?
<10> has no calling capabilities whatsoever.
<10> it's a linux tablet. you want internet without wlan, you need to get a phone to help it.
<7> hmm
<10> or use usb-ethernet but that's not a very good option.
<9> or internet phone :)
<9> nvm
<9> not been following ;)
<7> any recommendations?
<4> http://tuxmobil.org/phones_linux.html
<5> lorindol: nice question
<5> i'd like a phone like that too
<5> perhaps even for free as in beer and linux
<7> nah
<7> i'm willing to pay
<5> me too heh ;)
<7> but there's nothing available apparently
<5> afaik, lindi- had some project realted to run linux on nokia stuff
<11> yep
<11> help me if you can :)


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