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<0> well, now I have CRT on/off :) thank you. Only need to get it to work now :p
<1> bobbens, can you say why xv-ouput crashes xserver, when there is a line like ' Screen "ExternalScreen" Above "LaptopScreen" ' in my xorg.conf?
<1> when i remove this line, it works....
<2> rdz: are you using flgrx or radeon?
<1> it worked also before with this line, unti i connected a second monitor...
<1> bobbens, fglrx
<2> look at my xorg i pasted
<2> its for the radeon
<2> but iirc they use similar syntax
<0> bobbens, when you're talking about configuring xorg manualy to you mean editing the file or is xorgconfig ok?
<2> tafsen: you can use the fancy thing, but id _much_ rather do it manually and you learn more from it
<2> dont fear the configuration files
<0> where's the xorg config file?
<2> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
<2> updatedb; locate xorg.conf
<1> bobbens, sorry to harm you with that, but i don't see clearly trough it. the interesting part in your configuration is ' Option"MergedXinerama" "on"' and ' Option"MergedXineramaCRT2IsScreen0" "true" '? or why is it making two desktops on two screens?
<2> rdz: well its used merged framebuffer to have like one big screen with opengl on _all_ of it. CRT2 is screen 0 just makes the blue adaptor primary screen which in my case is my LCD
<0> bobbens, what does updatedb do?
<1> bobbens, cool. sound like what i have looked for originally. many thanks
<3> tafsen: makes locate work
<2> tafsen: makes a database of all your files and locations so you can search alot faster
<2> tafsen: you should read up on basic *NIX tools
<2> rdz: man radeon :)
<1> bobbens, thanks again. didn't know that this things are described there....
<0> bobbens, any good guides on the internet?
<2> tafsen: too many, google :)
<0> bobbens, to many good? :P The problem with google is that it doesn't only show the good ones, it always shows the sukcy ones
<2> tafsen: first try, first find http://www.trilug.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Essential_Knowledge seems good enough
<2> well im off, good night
<0> good night
<0> and thank you for your time :)
<2> np
<4> anyone know where i can find the Xlib repository on the web?
<5> xserver q'n: anyone familiar with keysyms/codes/modifiers?
<5> we're seeing an issue where mod4 is being (apparently) triggered by a keycode that isn't in the modifier map for mod4
<5> (but another keycode with the _same keysym_ is)
<5> (we're talking about Super_L)
<5> should we not be relying on keycode mod mappings, but instead just using them to flag keysyms, and then finding all matching keycodes for those??
<6> anyone know much about the multiple x screen setup possibilities of xorg on a dual-out gfx card?
<6> ie: different backgrounds... is it possible?
<6> through xorg.conf, that is. i already know it isn't through gui configs
<3> backgrounds have nothing to do with X, and I suggest googling "Xorg Xinerama HOWTO"
<6> Xinerama, i'll give that a shot
<6> thanks
<3> (***uming you want the 2 screens to act as one screen, not quite sure.. if you want 2 separate screens, it's a slightly different setup)
<6> what is xinerama, anyhow?
<3> an X extension that allows windows to be moved between monitors and the like
<6> ah
<6> what about in non twin-view though, when you can't move things between windows
<6> still applicable?
<3> well, the setup would be similar, just remove the
<3> the "ServerFlags "xinerama"" bit or whatever it was
<6> i actually have it all setup already
<3> (make sure you don't follow a MergedFB howto)
<6> i got it all setup via the nvidia readmes and so on, but nobody seems to mention the non technical stuff like bg and other aesthetic aspects
<3> er. BG isn't handled in X.
<6> ?
<3> it's up to whatever program handles your desktop (most of them are pretty much implemented a fullscreen window behind all other windows)
<6> oh, ok
<3> Xfdesktop lets you set different wallpapers per monitor, for one
<6> Xfdesktop
<3> and if you still want 2 separate screens (one per monitor), you'll have to set up 2 "screen" sections in Xorg.conf, and.. well, a Xinerama layout without Xinerama loaded.
<6> is that a windowmaker kind of thing or a specific utility?
<3> it's the desktop manager that comes with Xfce
<6> i've got it set up as two screen sections already
<6> ah
<6> thanks for the help Ori_B
<7> Xinerama doesn't give 2 seperate screens as I understand it, the purpose of xinerame is to expand a single desktop over 2 screens
<7> when I have xinerama on I have 1 desktop over 2 screens, when I have xinerama off I get two seperate desktops (one on each screen)
<8> howdy, I am having problems setting up xorg for my widescreen monitor
<8> I get 1600x1200, but its wrong ratio
<3> Paladine: yes, correct.
<8> www.agilman.org/xorg.conf
<7> Ori_B, you know how to fix my locale problem?
<3> didn't see it.
<7> Ori_B, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204415 <- details are there
<3> no, sorry
<7> its proving to be a bit of a pain
<7> can't find anyone who knows how to fix it
<5> Ori_B: you running amd64?
<5> oops, Paladine sorry
<7> Rath, yeah
<5> and ooffice is presumably running from a 32-bit sort of chroot, right?
<7> no
<7> open office is part of the default installation for ubuntu dapper 64bit
<5> ok, 32-bit binary though, right?
<7> I have no idea
<5> find the binary for it, and run file on it
<5> at a guess: file /usr/lib/openoffice/programs/soffice.bin
<5> (i have a vague feeling i saw somewhere that ooffice wasn't working properly on amd64 yet, but it's possible that statement had qualifiers)
<7> yeah 32bit
<5> right, your problem is that you need 32-bit gconv convertors, and x locale files
<5> do you have a directory, like /emul/something
<3> 0.o
<5> (i.e. is there something in /emul)
<3> OOo still doesn't work on 64 bit?
<7> rath, so that is the problem?
<7> wth do they install it by default in 64bit ubu then?
<5> yes
<5> well, it'll work in compatibility mode
<5> oh, ubuntu has a script to set most of these up... its name might be linux32
<5> ("these" => environment variables to tell it where to find the 32-bit gconv and xlocale stuff)
<7> rath, you lost be a bit there, I am stilla bit of a noob
<5> ok
<5> do you have a program called linux32?
<5> (which linux32)
<7> not as regular user, lemmie check with sudo
<7> either it isn;t on the system or it isn't in my path
<5> try apt-get install linux32
<7> k installed
<5> now try running ooffice under it: linux32 ooffice
<7> k sec
<7> same errors
<7> and my save as window still has a buggered font
<5> right
<5> it's a bit awkward for me because i dont use ubuntu
<5> so i'm sort of guessing a bit
<7> any helpis appreciated mate
<5> oh, i've got to go for lunch
<5> i'll maybe be back in a couple of hours
<7> I will be here for a bit
<5> otherwise, google around for: openoffice amd64 ubuntu
<7> at least another couple of hours
<7> enjoy your lunch
<5> Paladine: any luck looking with google?
<7> naaah unfortunately, the only suggestions were to reinstall, which didn't help
<5> oh, that's odd
<5> anyway, do you have a /emul directory?
<7> nope
<5> hmmm
<5> oh, i see, i think they put it all in multilib
<5> ok, do you have a directory: /usr/lib32/gconv ?
<7> yes
<5> do you have a directory: /usr/X11R6/lib32/X11/locale ?
<7> no
<5> ok, not sure where they'd be for you
<5> but it should be able to live without them...
<5> hang ten
<7> I have /usr/X11R6/lib32/nvidia
<7> np will go make a coffee
<5> try this:
<5> locate XLC_LOCALE | sed 's,/[^/]*/[^/]*$,,' | sort | uniq
<5> (just searching for where x locale files might be)
<7> /usr/share/X11/locale
<7> /var/sid-386-chroot/usr/share/X11/locale
<7> brb
<5> thanks
<5> (ahh, there is a chroot hiding there)
<7> yeah i have been wondering if I screwed up my chroot installation
<7> and whether that could be the cause
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