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<CarlosBR_> is there any way to set the width and height of a XserverRegion?
<Phoul> Hello, Is there any reason my performence would be better with xcompmgr enabled
<Phoul> Because without it my windows leave these long trails and with its almost flawless
<Ori_B> Phoul: yes. because xcompmgr is designed to prevent windows from needing to repaint themselves.
<Phoul> Umm... is there any way to fix this?
<Ori_B> use xcompmgr
<Phoul> lol!
<Ori_B> that's why it was made
<Phoul> so would it be my gfx cards fault then?
<Ori_B> that or the app's fault for being slow to repaint
<Phoul> well it happens with gaim,xchat,nautilus(i know it will happen with nautilus) and sometimes xterm
<Ori_B> (usually you get short trails without xcompmgr)
<Rathnor> i've had problems with xcompmgr running for long periods
<Rathnor> (and i've never got trails without it... (mainly weird artifacts *with* it) that's weird)
<Ori_B> Phoul: so far, you've just said that things work better with xcompmgr...
<Ori_B> Rathnor: yeah, not all drivers like xcompmgr.



<Phoul> Yes but i dislike using xcompmgr because it leaves artifacts
<Ori_B> it _shouldn't_, but I personally don't use it (something about my setup makes it too slow, and I'm too lazy/busy/apathetic to debug right now)
<maikol> my xserver is restarting when i run an openGl game or wine
<ramz> hello all... I installed 7.1 on my system yesterday and am having problems where kdm *apparently* is autologging in and dropping X to failsafe... (xterm, no WM)... if I issue an ~/.xinitrc in the xterm, KDE starts right up... any ideas where the disconnect between boot and desktop could be coming from?
<rebas01> I just installed xorg7.1 in fedora core. At the login menu where you can choose your desktop manager there are no fonts, only empty boxes [] []. When I log in and KDE starts up there are fonts. Does anyone know how to fix this?
<Jerith666> I'm running gentoo and just upgraded to their xorg-7.0 ebuild, and when I run 'Xorg -configure', I get these errors: http://pastebin.ca/85663
<yeknom> Jerith666, i would guess you either have an old mga driver that trying to be loaded or something like that
<ramz> hello all... I installed 7.1 on my system yesterday and am having problems where kdm *apparently* is autologging in and dropping X to failsafe... (xterm, no WM)... if I issue an ~/.xinitrc in the xterm, KDE starts right up... any ideas where the disconnect between boot and desktop could be coming from?
<Jerith666> yeknom: It's not only the mga driver that's failing, though.
<ramz> rebas01: there's a font-howto in the gentoo wiki that might help you...
<yeknom> Jerith666, then you likely lots of older stuff or newer stuff it is trying to load
<yeknom> Jerith666, all those undefined symbols shouldn't be happening...if it where me i'd nuke the entire directory and then reinstall to be sure
<yeknom> Jerith666, though I have no idea how hard this is on gentoo
<Jerith666> where would I look for the old stuff? Nuke which directory? /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ ?
<Jerith666> all the files in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ have modification dates of last night, which is when I did the compilation
<yeknom> Jerith666, i'd do all of /usr/lib/xorg/drivers at least (maybe just /usr/lib/xorg) and see if that fixed it
<yeknom> Jerith666, if they really are the right version then be sure the right xserver is being started then
<yeknom> Jerith666, i'm not too familiar with what version added what
<Jerith666> Xorg -version says 7.0.0, build date last night, file modification date last night. :-/
<yeknom> Jerith666, well...then i'ven o clue
<Jerith666> bummer ... :(
<Jerith666> any suggestions on where else I might try asking?
<yeknom> Jerith666, not really....unless you can find other gentoo people that are having the same problem...but I still think it's a version mismatch issue
<ceruleantiger> Xorg has been working fine for me until today, and now it takes 100% CPU like all the time. The only thing that I can think of that might've caused this is that I installed korean language support today... what are some common reasons for this crazy CPU usage?
<ceruleantiger> ps - I have never in several months had any problems like this with any of my computers, so I'm suspecting it's a korean language thing... figured someone here would know a solution
<ceruleantiger> oh, and another thing, I'm on ubuntu (dapper), and the suspicious packages are scim, scim-hangul, but I'm not even sure if those are the problems
<ceruleantiger> also, the CPU usage is always at 100%, so by Xorg taking less CPU, I mean it just fills up whatever cycles are unused by the other programs
<ceruleantiger> sorry if this all seems like irrelevant information, I really am not familiar with Xorg, so I dont' know what the common problems are, or what sort of information to include. Let me know if I need to clarify anything... this problem is EXTREMELY frustrating
<ceruleantiger> hello?
<_bryce> hello.
<ceruleantiger> hey, maybe you can answer my question
<_bryce> doubtful but I'll give it a shot
<ceruleantiger> I just typed it all in... I feel guilty about typing it all back in, but nobody seems to be reading this anyways :P
<ceruleantiger> Xorg has been working fine for me until today, and now it takes 100% CPU like all the time. The only thing that I can think of that might've caused this is that I installed korean language support today... what are some common reasons for this crazy CPU usage?
<ceruleantiger> ps - I have never in several months had any problems like this with any of my computers, so I'm suspecting it's a korean language thing... figured someone here would know a solution
<ceruleantiger> oh, and another thing, I'm on ubuntu (dapper), and the suspicious packages are scim, scim-hangul, but I'm not even sure if those are the problems
<ceruleantiger> also, the CPU usage is always at 100%, so by Xorg taking less CPU, I mean it just fills up whatever cycles are unused by the other programs
<ceruleantiger> sorry if this all seems like irrelevant information, I really am not familiar with Xorg, so I dont' know what the common problems are, or what sort of information to include. Let me know if I need to clarify anything... this problem is EXTREMELY frustrating
<_bryce> that does sound odd. but it is equally strange that korean language support should cause something like that... is it an input method or just support for rendering it?
<_bryce> I use a Japanese input method before, so I know some about that kind of thing.
<ceruleantiger> I'm not really sure actually... what's the difference?
<_bryce> an input method is something you use to enter text.... e.g. you type romanized korean and hangul come out.
<ceruleantiger> to be honest, I'm not even sure that's the problem, it's just the only thing that I can think of...
<_bryce> well, an input method that was faulty could conceivably do something like that.
<ceruleantiger> I think it's an input method. Basically it's as if the keyboard was a korean keyboard - all the keys get remapped when you hit ctrl-space
<_bryce> (I suppose)
<_bryce> but it takes up 100% of your cpu even when you are not using that input method?
<ceruleantiger> why would it do that? isn't Xorg just a graphical thing? < - shows my ignorance on the subject :P
<_bryce> no, it does input too
<ceruleantiger> well, when I have scim running, it will take 100% whether it's in english mode or hangul mode
<_bryce> it has to deal with your keyboard and mouse to send the data to the graphical programs.
<ceruleantiger> not sure if that answers the question...
<_bryce> yeah, that answered my question.
<ceruleantiger> when scim is not running though, I don't think there are any problems
<_bryce> well, i'm not sure... sorry, I don't think I can help, but it sounds like scim is the culprit.
<ceruleantiger> would renicing it be a reasonable solution so that the CPU usage wouldn't be that noticeable?
<_bryce> if it has a channel, i'd go there
<_bryce> ceruleantiger, you could give that a shot
<_bryce> but if the cpu is idle anyway,
<_bryce> even the lowest priority process will take as much as it wants i think.



<ceruleantiger> but would it start dropping input? I mean, if the keyboard stops working, it'd be hard to fix :P
<_bryce> I doubt it
<ceruleantiger> hmm... ok, I'll try it later tonight then
<ceruleantiger> thanks a lot for the help
<_bryce> ok. sorry I couldn't be of more help, I advise you consult scim's documentation/support/etc.
<ceruleantiger> yeah, I looked at it, and I can't find any problems... but I may just be looking in the wrong places
<ceruleantiger> anyways, nobody knows everything right? it's the effort that counts :)
<_bryce> sometimes...
<_bryce> bye.
<ramz> rebas01: there's a font-howto in the gentoo wiki that might help you...
<ramz> hello all... I installed 7.1 on my system yesterday and am having problems where kdm *apparently* is autologging in and dropping X to failsafe... (xterm, no WM)... if I issue an ~/.xinitrc in the xterm, KDE starts right up... any ideas where the disconnect between boot and desktop could be coming from?
<rebas01> does anyone know how to fix missing fonts in 7.1? I keep getting a bunch of [] [] [] [] where text should be
<ramz> rebas01: search google for xorg-7.1 fonts... there's a gentoo howto on it that was very helpful...
<rebas01> ramz: I'm only missing the fonts that appear at the login screen, where you select kde or gnome. When kde starts up the fonts work fine.
<ramz> rebas01: those would still be invoked by X and be impacted by the same configuration settings in xorg.conf, yes?
<rebas01> yes, I checked my Xorg.0.log and I'm missing a few fonts: TTF, OTF, CID
<rebas01> those are the fonts I'm missing from what X -configure put in my xorg.conf
<ramz> rebas01: is your locale set correctly?
<rebas01> I'm not sure where that is set at, i'm in kde right now
<ramz> rebas01: there's a locales directory in your X tree somewhere... for me the soft link that pointed to my 6.9.0 installation was broken, so I had to refind it and relink it...
<rebas01> k, I'm set for US english. I'm just going to try and build the srpms for the fonts I'm missing
<rebas01> there is one other problem I'm having with Xorg 7.1 that I havn't been able to fix and it involves the i810 driver
<rebas01> When I enable the i810 driver, I can run on an external monitor on my laptop, but not on the laptop screen. With the vesa driver I can run on either screen.
<rebas01> which is driving me crazy, since the only reason I upgraded to 7.1 is support for the intel 945gm video card through the i810 driver
<ramz> hello all... I installed 7.1 on my system yesterday and am having problems where kdm *apparently* is autologging in and dropping X to failsafe... (xterm, no WM)... if I issue an ~/.xinitrc in the xterm, KDE starts right up... any ideas where the disconnect between boot and desktop could be coming from?
<FR^2> Good morning
<lord_rob> j #xgl
<lord_rob> oops sorry
<lord_rob> Does aiglx work with free ati r300 drivers in xorg 7.1 or will I need to use fglrx ?
<bushwakko> lord_rob: aiglx isn't supported with fglrx, or it doesn't work with most compositing managers because of its lacking texture_from_pixmap extension
<MatBoy> Guys, why does nobody believe that more than 2 screens as one desktop can give a serious higher load on your system ?
<Sir_J> hi guys
<Sir_J> how can I start another X session with resolution 1024x768 ?
<Sir_J> startx -- :1 <what options here ?>
<Triskelios> Sir_J: specify that mode in a config file and pass -config
<Sir_J> Triskelios, this mode already in config file
<Sir_J> /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
<Sir_J> how can I use this mode ?
<Sir_J> xrandr -s 1024x768 works silently
<Sir_J> and mode doesn't change
<simosx> Sir_J: See http://www.samspublishing.com/library/content.asp?b=red_hat_linux7&seqNum=44&rl=1 for startx options.
<Triskelios> Sir_J: then you have a driver problem or something else preventing the mode from working. read your X log
<Sir_J> moment
<Triskelios> simosx: that's not useful
<Sir_J> tail -f /var/log/Xorg.0.log
<Sir_J> says nothing
<Sir_J> after probing xrandr ...
<Triskelios> Sir_J: read the whole thing
<Sir_J> what thing ?
<Triskelios> the log
<Sir_J> Triskelios, done
<Triskelios> does xrandr list 1024x768 as a valid mode?
<Sir_J> nothing special
<Sir_J> moment
<Sir_J> http://rafb.net/paste/results/gE295e78.html
<Sir_J> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Y31ubE76.html
<Sir_J> any ideas ?
<Sir_J> I have samsung LCD monitor, may problem in this ?
<Sir_J> driver nvidia_agp
<Triskelios> also "xrandr -s 10247x768" is not valid syntax
<Triskelios> the modes are numbered
<Triskelios> *1024x768 I mean
<Sir_J> all the time this command works
<Sir_J> I always use it
<Sir_J> but not it doesn't works :"(
<Triskelios> well use the documented syntax
<Sir_J> *but now
<Sir_J> Triskelios, could you show me example please ?
<Triskelios> man xrandr
<Sir_J> Triskelios, is is not clear yet
<Triskelios> [07:17:49] <Triskelios> the modes are numbered
<Sir_J> how can I set necessary mode ?


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