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<0> Hello
<0> Is something wrong with the CVS?
<0> When I try checking something out, I get:
<0> connect to cvs.xine.sf.net(66.35.250.209):2401 failed: No route to host
<0> Thank you :-)
<1> Looks fine from here.
<0> Would you be so kind as to check out the xine-lib module for me and tar and email it to me?
<0> (It's ok if you don't want to - I don't mind waiting.)
<1> The best thing for you to do *is* to wait and try again later.
<0> Why?
<1> You've probably just hit some transient routing problem.
<0> Good call.
<0> *point.
<0> (in 1.1.1)
<0> Thank you :)
<2> http://gentoo.mirrored.ca/distfiles/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060630.tar.bz2 just take this if you want, is a working snapshot of last week
<0> Does that link work? :p
<2> it should, i've just took it out of the mirrors' list
<0> (I'm getting a forbidden error message).
<2> you can use gentoo.osuosl.org in alternative
<0> Thank you.
<0> That works :)
<0> There was one for flac - my amarok isn't playing them.
<1> Any good reason *not* to apply the CDDA patches which were posted to -devel?
<2> altrus, that is merged since a looong time ago
<2> _ds, can't think of any, if they works
<0> Really?
<2> i'm no big cdda expert, but they seems fine to a first look
<2> altrus, yes
<0> (Sorry - I haven't kept track, I'm just trying to figure this out :))
<0> Were they merged to the 1.1.1 build? Or the -devel build?
<2> i think a couple of days after i prepared the patch.. that is basically needed only for 1.1.1 sources.. 1.1.2 (pre) sources are good
<0> I'm sorry - what exactly am I looking for? Where would I find the -devel branch?
<2> altrus, that link i gave you is a snapshot of the upcoming 1.1.2 release
<0> Right, I've downloaded and configured it now.
<2> it's good to go, without any patching, for playing flac files in amarok
<0> *configuring it now
<0> Incidentally, are you aware of any problems when compiling with optimizations (-march=nocona -O3)?
<0> I've had problems when I'm compiling it with those flags.
<2> altrus, i would not suggest to use -O3 in general
<0> May I ask why?
<2> if you have problem disable the optimisations (--disable-optimizations at ./configure), and try with -O2
<2> -O3 enable some optimisations that often make stuff slower (seen it myself) or take too much memory
<0> I didn't know that, thanks.
<2> forces stuff to be enabled, even when it's not a good compromise, so it has often problems, -O2 works good for most of the cases
<0> Although, in regards to the memory (it did say something similar to that in the man pages), I have a workstation
<1> I *thought* that I recognised those CDDA patches - they're currently in my test build.
<2> [the same holds true for a good part of the optimisations enabled by default
<0> with 2 gigs, so mem isn't really a problem
<2> _ds, eh?
<0> (I'm a physics student, not cmp-sci, hence the questions).
<1> I grabbed them a few weeks ago, gave them a test then forgot about them :-)
<2> altrus, if you're running 64-bit, it's likely that memory is more important than you think :) especially since linux does not proactively empty the pages
<2> _ds, lol :P
<0> 32-bit
<2> altrus, then -O3 is more a problem for the register starvation more than memory :P
<0> AAhhhh!
<0> I hadn't thought of that.
<2> [32-bit uses the same amount of registers of a standard x86, that are really few.. and with some hand-made asm code it finishes the registers too soon
<2> you might want to add -fomit-frame-pointer to free one extra register
<0> See, while I mostly do computational stuff, I do use it for entertainment, I ***umed that would help.
<0> Thank you very much.
<0> thank you :)
<2> not a problem :)
<0> So disabling that would affect stacktraces, but this wouldn't be a problem for (stable) computational stuff, right?
<0> (debugging)
<2> using -fomit-frame-pointer make almost impossible having good backtraces on x86 (on almost every other platform, it's enabled at -O2 and does not hinder backtraces), but it's the only way to get the ffmpeg code to compile, as it is
<0> That's interesting - what is the performance gain like?
<0> Have you considered adding that to the faq? (O
<2> not much sure about the performance gain, especially since it's a while i don't use x86 myself :)
<0> Do you think it would be useful if I added a paragraph or two regarding that for the xine-faq?
<0> I just think it might be a neat thing for people to know, if they're interested.
<2> by default xine already builds with it enabled
<0> Ah, perfect then :-p
<0> (I'll shut up then :-p)
<1> Right, that's one of the CDDA patches committed. The other one can wait.
<2> but i'm not the right person to actually speak about the defaults, i proposed the --disable-optimizations options to solve a few problems with gentoo :P
<0> I have slackware 10.2
<0> But I've compiled most of it from sources
<0> Including KDE, but I think I'll be doing that again after hearing your advice.
<1> Hmm, the website's still partly broken...
<0> I know when I try to build the KDE multimedia package with -O3, xine doesn't compile, but I hadn't known that optimizations can have a negative effect.
<2> uh artsplugin-xine did have some quirk iirc but i'm not really sure what was causing it tbh
<0> To be completely honest, I just use KDE because it looks nice, and has a slide-show for a background (I wish I was joking). I use XFCE (with kate) when I'm coding, and run sims from the command line.
<1> (If only I'd not fixed that PHP scripting security problem, I'd be able to fix the site...)
<2> rotfl
<0> And of course, it's not a problem with the xine-libaries.
<0> :/
<1> And as if that wasn't enough, the required fix is right there in the site news.
<1> Guess who put it there...
<0> be a sneaky sneak and undo the fix, fix the site, and redo the fix.
<1> Can't.
<1> Trouble is, the update mechanism would be needed to undo the fix, and it's exactly that which is broken.
<0> Amusingly enough, it was a very similar problem which ended my affair with windows.
<2> _ds, who takes care of the site?
<2> btw now that i see.. jcdutton ping :P
<1> Siggi Langauf.
<2> [00:35] [Notice] -ChanServ- Contact: siggi, last seen: 40 weeks 2 days (2h 34m 22s) ago
<2> the same who has contact of the channel?
<1> That sounds like him - Copious Free Time.
<3> Flameeyes, what is the problem?
<2> jcdutton, hi :) just wondering about who was taking care of the channel, thinking about adding CIA bot here to spell the commits, now that the script is all set :)
<3> Do we really neeed that here. Isn't the mailing list enough?
<2> i would just find it helpful to have realtime show of the commits.. and to show that the irc channel isn't dead :P i heard from a good bunch of people that coming here is like coming in the silenta channel :)
<0> ./join #silenta
<2> err it was s/silenta/silent/ of course
<1> , , ' ...
<2> ACTION
<1> , ?
<1> , . , .
<2>
<1> "Learn the Words"
<1> </patrician>
<2> hm?
<1> (one quick search later) http://www.discworldmonthly.co.uk/whoswho_patrician.php
<2> k
<0> Are those books?
<1> Yes. Quite a few of them.
<0> Is that url a reflective description of them? :-p
<2> talking of books, i have an ljb's novel that awaits me :P
<1> Probably not. You might be better off looking at http://www.lspace.org/ .
<0> Thanks
<0> Anyways, thank you for your help guys :)
<0> Good bye.
<4> How do I play a DVD with xine if the DVD is on my hard drive?
<1> "dvd://path/to/dvd/image"
<4> and how do I adjust brightness and etc.? Because so far I can't do it
<4> xine dvd://HANSMER
<4> ?
<4> doesn't work
<1> You're p***ing the full pathname?
<4> oh,ok
<4> thanks
<4> just did it
<4> so, how do I adjust brightness?
<1> Brightness control works here (Xv, Radeon)...
<4> my card is Nvidia
<4> Riva
<4> and xv
<4> and it works with mplayer if I use -vf scale
<1> Hmm. Not familiar with nVidia graphics hardware...
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