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<0> _ds, around?
<1> No :-)
<0> can i talk with your answering machine then? :P
<1> Yes. Leave your message after the tone.
<0> what do you think would be better, to have different .po/.mo files for xine-ui's xitk interface and fb interface, or just one?
<1> Separate, I think. It'll help packaging.
<0> true
<0> should probably try to get those POTFILES generation automatic too
<0> hrm
<0> now i wonder what xitk.mo is for then
<0> _ds, insights?
<1> xitk looks like it's supposed to be a separate library, the intention presumably being to have more than one program using it.
<0> intentions seems to be quite different from reality :P
<1> True...
<0> i'm trying to get something clean and releasable as 0.99.5, as the current release has at least 3 security problems issued against it
<1> Might be better to leave the .po split until the release is done...?
<0> i hoped to get the fbxine thing done before the release, but probably better to wait
<0> i do have a problem with xine, after latest recompile (not after the last update), it crashes when going fullscreen
<0> can you check if it's the same for you?
<1> Will do...
<1> Works here.
<0> double click and fullscreen, it works? cvs head?
<1> Not double-click - that crashes (BadWindow).
<0> eh okay, so that is for you too
<0> i'm unable to find the problem, i asked our x11 maintainer if he could tell me how to debug that but seems he's the usual stubborn and just told me that gtk stuff has a --sync option to do that -_-
<1> And you get to set a breakpoint on (IIRC) gdk_x_error...
<0> but here we use neither
<1> There's an option gui.xsynchronize...
<0> but still i have no idea where to put the break at
<1> _XDefaultError
<1> xitk_xevent_notify, xitk.c:1731 - call xitk_install_x_error_handler() before, call xitk_uninstall_x_error_handler() after. That allows things to work, but why fx->window is invalid, I don't know...
<1> Just done a test debuild - lintian errors follow (paraphased):
<1> manpage section mismatch: various xine.1 & xine-remote.1
<0> eh?
<0> what does that mean?
<1> They claim to be in section 1x, but they've been installed in section 1.
<0> uh. .duh
<1> menu icon too big: xine.xpm has size 34x34, but lintian complains if the size exceeds 32x32
<1> I think that some menu programs work with XPMs and not PNGs.
<1> Old ones, most likely...
<0> _ds, how many ons ago? :P i think most of the currently working ones supports pngs just fine
<0> *box, xfce, gnome, kde
<1> Hmm, odd... the 32x32 PNG is really a 34x34 PNG...!
<0> o_O
<1> Got the *cause* of that crash yet?
<0> nop, trying to follow the code but i can't find a reason why window should be invalid
<0> not like i know much of in-depth x11 programming
<2> does this vid work for anyone in xine? http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/services/podcasting/reliablesources/video/2006/07/23/reliable.sources.7.23.06.cnn.m4v
<0> KDEfanboy, does it show little green rectangles, by chance?
<2> Flameeyes: nah, it just says it can't determine the type. debug output is something like. XINE_ERROR_NO_DEMUX_PLUGIN
<0> uh okay
<0> xine version?
<2> xine 0.99.4, xine-lib 1.1.2
<0> distribution/how did you install xine?
<2> also mplalyercodecs-all-20060501. i am running with xine-lib and xine from Kubuntu Dapper, but also a custom xine-lib compiled from sources
<2> i have tried using both xine-libs
<0> uhm
<2> so does open it for you?
<0> still downloading
<0> will take 12 minutes more
<2> k
<3> Welcome back, Mr Developer!
<0> KDEfanboy, works fir me
<0> although i do see the usual green rectangles
<0> _ds, how's your h264 knowledge?
<1> Not good...
<2> oh? what plugin/demuxer does it find in the probe? i must need to figure why i don't have it installed correctly
<0> KDEfanboy, wait i was running it through kaffeine so i don't see the output.. just a sec
<0> xine: found demuxer plugin: Apple Quicktime (MOV) and MPEG-4 demux plugin
<0> v
<0> demux plugin quicktime
<2> ah k thx much for your help. ill have to look into it
<0> they might not ship with it for patent reasons
<4> Flameeyes: around?
<0> yeah
<5> hi
<3> Hello again, Mr Developer!
<5> hey, guys, i don't know if it's a bug in xine or a bug in the file, but when i try to play a certain .mkv file, it always conks out at the exact same moment -_-
<0> mkv support isn't exactly in its best shape
<5> i've noticed -_-'
<0> maybe it would help using libebml/libmatroska themselves, but they are c++
<4> Flameeyes: say, do you have some insight in ffmpeg development? how likely is it that ffmpeg will eventually make a release?
<0> siretart, not that likely i'd say :P
<4> Flameeyes: hm :(
<4> Flameeyes: does the ffmpeg copy in xine have any (important) patches, which are not in upstream ffmpeg (yet)?
<0> nothing really important
<0> mostly changes needed to build it in-line rather than external
<0> the only fix was of doubtful need, and fixed already upstream
<4> Flameeyes: does gentoo use the internal or external copy of ffmpeg in the xine package?
<0> external since 1.1.2
<0> before, selectable by user
<0> [suggested: external]
<4> Flameeyes: I'm seriously thinking about doing that in debian as well
<4> Flameeyes: why do you prefer the external ffmpeg copy?
<0> when there are security issues, there's just one package to update
<0> there's only one package with TEXTRELs
<0> xine-lib takes less time to build
<4> yes, that's what I guessed
<0> plus it amkes use of some build fixes
<0> and runtime improvements
<4> the newer ffmpeg copy is actually faster?
<4> interesting
<0> more than faster, it fixed a few h264 problems with ppc
<0> i still have some h264 problems on amd64 tho
<4> I see
<4> Flameeyes: I'm wondering if it was possible to build the xine ffmpeg plugin out of tree
<4> this would make packaging easier. at least for me.
<0> i don't think it's possible right now
<4> Flameeyes: looking at the code, I don't see obvious reason why this shouldn't work. can you help me perhaps?
<0> well you'd have to change the Makefile.am, at a minimum
<4> and rewrite configure.ac, using 'ffmpeg-config' for specifying cflags and ldflags to libavcodec, libavformat and postproc
<0> rather use pkg-config
<4> or that
<0> i'd be for rewriting the ffmpeg check to use the pkg-config files, but i'm not sure how ffmpeg.m4 works
<4> m4/ffmpeg.m4 looks a bit overengeneered to me
<0> a lot
<4> perhaps it was written before ffmpeg-config or the introduction of the .pc files
<0> probably
<4> Flameeyes: what do you think about the idea of building the xine ffmpeg plugin out of tree?
<0> that it should be made in a different way
<4> how do you mean that?
<0> like having a separate configure.ac, so that it can be also built in-tree
<0> because we _do_ need the ffmpeg plugin for most formats
<4> that's out of question
<4> I'm rather adressing maintenance issues. I don't want to have it removed or taken away or something
<0> yeah but if you split it "manually" it amkes it difficult to handle for normal users and/or maintenance wise, that's why i was thinking of using a separate configure.ac
<4> you mean that they have to install 2 (or more, if we extend the idea) pieces of software?
<6> Hi all
<6> I'm trying to play an FLV in xine and there is no sound and i get a warning about dropping frames
<6> it can play wmv fine
<6> it can play everything else fine
<0> i don't think there's support for flv right now, with win32codecs
<0> and ffmpeg still doesn't support that well enough
<0> siretart, no my idea is just to make the ./configure a "cascade" version, so that it builds everything automatically, but you can simply drop a dir and a line in configure.ac to avoid that
<6> well i tried mplayer and it can play flv, so is there any way i can get xine to use the same codec that mplayer is using for flv files?
<4> Flameeyes: I see
<4> Flameeyes: thanks for input
<0> siretart, np, but post that on the ml, so it can be discussed
<6> mplayer says:
<6> Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
<6> Selected video codec: [ffflv] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg Flash video)
<6> let me stick the whole output in pastebin
<0> yeah mplayer uses a new copy of ffmpeg
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