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<0> its doing bad things to my moral
<1> I have a 12" powerbook, usually just unplug it from the external monitor and bring it home
<1> I have a macmini I guess I could use at home, but its just a headless server atm
<2> Zeros, sweet, my system is workign :-D
<1> element43, heh, oh there are days, swinging by the office at 11:30 at night to fix a deployment issue after dinner a movie with a friend is no fun. :/
<2> the temp/registered user
<1> and a*
<1> majd, kick ***
<1> :)
<0> Zeros, the problem for me is that I end up working 12, 14, 16 hours a day 7 days a week
<2> i think i hacked up the code too much...oh well
<2> cause i messed around with the mla stuff too to make it work w/ adodb
<2> element43, wow
<0> Zeros, which means work becomes personal and as you can guess that is bad work ethic
<2> brb, switchin comps
<3> has anyone built a custom lamp stack, like xampp?



<1> element43, yeah I can see that. I've taken projects home on occasion, I do work remotely a couple hours a week too.
<1> depends on if what I'm working on is tedious and painful or if its fun
<0> custom lamp stack? huh?
<3> linux apache mysql php/perl
<0> i know what it is
<1> rhett, why do you need a custom amp deployment package?
<0> but how does one customize it?
<0> why not just install whatever you need heh. why does it need to be one package?
<1> element43, maybe swap out python for php ;)
<0> Zeros, heh
<1> swap in rather
<0> Zeros, i end up installing php for wordpress
<0> and thus mysql as well
<3> faster and easier deployment, never worryng about dependencies missing or breaking
<0> how often do you deploy ?
<1> element43, I try to avoid MySQL whenever possible, php5, ruby and python are pretty much a given, as is some version of apache
<0> yeah but a lot of programs out there depend on mysql
<1> the only specific setup is what gets done to the httpd process handlers.
<3> so, you're saying that they aren't needed?
<0> they can be
<0> really depends on your needs
<1> rhett, you know that xampp states right in the docs its not for production systems right? :P
<3> I was just wondering if anyone has made one
<3> i know that, which is why I'm considering building one
<1> rhett, Can't say that I have, its quite common to use some form of package management system anyway
<3> which is why i asked if anyone built a custom one
<1> apt-get for instance
<3> yeah, it seems like lots of people just use centos for the lamp stack because they know it's somewhat secure by default
<3> and somewhat stable
<1> element43, I wish there was some way to get postgres into the lime light, not sure why mysql is the canonical database... the thing is really quite lacking.
<3> I've just heard that putting it all in a package is a good way to do things
<0> Zeros, simple... mysql, like php, was easier to install and learn
<1> ah :)
<0> rhett, i don't know about that.
<0> rhett, personally I prefer independent packages allowing me to upgrade as needed
<1> rhett, sometimes yeah, in production environments from what I've experienced you either use some package management system and script the install or a big disk image you clone onto new machines
<0> rhett, my production server is CentOS4 .... its kind of ancient but yum works wonderful
<1> much easier to ghost a bunch of machines than to deal with some xampp setup :)
<1> rhett, anyway, put something together, maybe you'll make someone's day with it!
<1> Don't want to discourage you when you might be solving someone's problem I just haven't seen
<0> rhett, i agree with Zeros. I think we are just trying to point out that you might be trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist for you.
<3> Well, I use perl a lot, and installing modules can ****
<3> it can take hours to install lots of cpan modules, which may get updated and break, if you try to insall perl with a normal package manager, and then cpan to install each module individually
<3> it would be much more reliable to just package up perl with the modules
<3> and faster
<1> :)
<1> On a similar note I know the entropy php package was a life saver, php is a PITA to build from source...
<1> and takes forever and a sunday to compile :/
<3> Yeah, I'm surprised it doesn't exist for free. At least a secure spinoff of XAMPP or something
<1> hax, you about?
<4> hmm
<4> is there a problem with absolute positioning in IE?
<5> no sir
<4> good :)
<5> are you a black militant
<6> what the hell is wrong with you
<5> does anyone have that picture of the black panthers p***ing around a box of nabisco crackers
<5> i wouldnt know where in hell to begin, mr gibson
<4> ?
<4> world would be so much better place if you had to make web pages only for firefox
<7> Sounds almost as if that'd ***ume Firefox was the only UA ...



<4> yes!
<4> I don't care about the others
<4> personally.
<7> Oh. A monopoly. Gotcha.
<4> yes
<5> what do you look for in a good pair of slacks
<4> a cookie?
<4> I like cookies
<4> :)
<5> probably not the nicest slacks if they come with a cookie
<5> why not just wait for sunday's paper and buy a nice pair with a coupon, then use the money you save to get some crackerjacks
<4> that's a long wait
<5> i was arrested a few years ago when i was working at food lion because i had some razor blades, glue, and a box of condoms and i was surgically opening the boxes and switching the prizes out and resealing them
<5> my manager was supposed to be gone for the day and all the sudden he walked right in on me
<5> and called the police, like a ****ing ***hole
<4> tricksy
<4> also, I'm pretty amazed how tasteless chinese food it's possible to make
<4> went to this lunch buffet today and none of the chinese food had any flavor to them
<4> pretty horrid I mus say
<4> s/mus/must
<5> you're a sicko
<4> yeah I suppose I am, but at least I'm not placing condoms in peoples prizes :P
<5> well i have a wide ***ortment of beautiful rings, miniature yoyo's, and holographic stickers to show for it
<5> i only used condoms because of their size and weight.... there's no better replacement the average crackerjack toy
<5> if you're looting crackerjacks
<5> i was young and stupid though
<5> just 26, had the whole world in front of me
<5> next thing i know its 6 months behind bars because my boss thought it would be cool to fake his absense
<8> lmao
<8> so you took the prizes
<8> and just resealed the stuff empty?
<5> nah i put a placeholder in there
<8> like what
<5> the judge threw on extra time because i used condoms
<8> ahaha
<5> but i honestly only used condoms because they are the perfect replacement, size wise
<5> then she goes on some ****ing bull**** moral rant about how little kids eat cracker jacks blah blah blah
<8> ahh sorry, didn't read where you mentioned it above
<8> haha
<8> never too early to practice safe ***
<8> hell
<8> you could say it's for putting on your head
<5> how is a rapped condom going to scar a little kid
<8> (if you're a parent)
<8> kids love doing that ****
<5> they dont even know what it is
<8> exactly
<5> yet im a registered *** offender
<8> for that?
<5> yeah
<8> AHAHAH
<5> shut up
<5> prick
<7> Change of topic, people. Take it private if you absolutely can't drop it.
<8> "Per our policy, we are informing you of a recent *** offender relocation to your area. The offender is known to reseal Cracker Jack boxes after taking out the normal 'prize' and replacing it with a condom."
<8> "Be afraid, be very afraid."
<5> whatever man
<5> i got screwed on a technicality and obviously the judge wasnt having a good day
<5> now im in the book with old men wearing trench coats and tennis shoes running around from bus stop to bus stop
<8> That ****s.
<9> Question for the floor. What would happen if http://www.archive.org/details/texts included blogger-style or wikipedia-style functionality, that is, support for revisions, comments, easy editing etc...?
<9> To try and ask a more specific Q, if the interface was simple enough, do we reckon many people would happily blog and write in the creative commons?
<10> I've been tasked with migrating the site at www.energizer.eu to an OSS content management system and wondering if either joomla or drupal will do the job
<10> its currently using a horrendous cms that was built by my predecessor
<9> simmerz, I'd look into django (strictly a web framework). From what I've seen, I'd stay clear of Joomla.
<9> dunno about drupal
<10> webben: would be great, except with django, I'd need to learn python first, and I have 7 days to do the migration!
<9> ah
<10> any reasons for staying clear of joomla?
<9> simmerz, crappy markup and accessibility
<9> they may fix it ... eventually
<10> i really don't have the time to build my own cms even with the help of a framework.
<10> webben: by that token, mambo suffers the same problem
<10> essentially what i have is a site that has 9 or 10 different templates that it uses for various bits of content - so i need a cms that can deal with multiple templates on a single site.


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