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<0> No because the spec is at REC-DOM-Level-1
<0> that is the spec, you can only change the spec through formal processes
<1> you mean the errata is non-binding?
<0> the formal processes are different for an errata
<0> that would be a question for a court to decide
<1> a court?
<1> it's a legal question?
<2> let's take the w3c to court for not making css 7 yet!
<0> yes, That's why standards bodies have to have stable documents
<2> JibberJim: interesting, is a "standard body" a legal term?
<1> JibberJim: what court has jurisdiction over the w3c?
<1> JibberJim, i would have thought it would only enter the court if for example a vendor was sued for saying
<1> a product complied with a spec which didn't
<2> webben: same here
<1> JibberJim: and in any case i would have thought that legal tangle would be solved by having dated documents
<1> my product fulfils the following W3C specs as of date X
<1> if that's not the case, then what is the point of having dated documents?
<2> you forgot to add the timezone
<3> bewest: so pretty much, i'm still a hueg nublet
<3> bewest: and i need to write better code
<3> lol
<1> a hueg nublet?
<3> heug... you know, like xbox
<1> hax: nope, no idea
<3> and nublet like... small newbie?
<1> don't own any consoles
<1> hueg == xbox?
<3> webben: but XBOX IS HUEGGGGGG
<3> webben: nah, /b/ thing, i guess
<2> the saturn was bigger i think
<3> i've heard other people say it though
<4> Morning everyone.
<1> morning fruition where's that wiki got to?
<3> Fruition: yo
<4> webben: Apparently with my host, in order to have a secure wiki I needed to request they ***ign me a port.
<1> At the very least, even if W3C has to preserve http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-DOM-Level-1/ for some weird legalistic reason
<1> they should have another link
<2> and don't get me started on a sega megadrive 1 + Sega CD + Sega 32X combo
<1> which merges errata with the doc
<2> now that was HUGE.
<3> thats not the point
<3> oh forget it
<1> so that's it's easy to find out what they actually recommend
<3> webben: google 'xbox is hueg'
<1> Fruition: oh, sounds weird, but okay :)
<4> Aye I thought it was as well.
<1> hax: so "hueg" is standard gamer slang?
<3> bewest: what?
<3> webben: kind of
<4> webben: http://help.textdrive.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=274
<1> http://www.w3.org/2005/ajar/tab.html
<0> Yeah no link though
<5> hax: see the bottom http://www.w3.org/2005/ajar/About.html
<1> Fruition: hmm still don't understand but i should imagine the textdrive folks know a lot better than i do :)
<3> bewest: wtf is a tabulator
<5> one of the things I was interested in building
<1> JibberJim, very cool
<5> I've been thinking about what I call deductive interfaces
<5> interfaces that emerge from the kind of data you come across
<1> JibberJim, or at least it looks very cool
<5> like when you come across locations, you are provided with a map interface
<1> JibberJim, what exactly does it search? the whole semantic web?
<1> or just a special subset?
<0> tabulator?
<1> mmm
<5> but simile and dig already have a strong start on it
<0> nah it just takes you through RDF files
<3> bewest: this is one of those things i just closed because i don't know what it's about, and about 6 months later, you'll probably get a "OMG HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THAT"
<3> (just for reference :)
<1> bewest: i though simile was more like adding data from one set to a currently viewed page
<1> bewest: like making your own mashups on the go
<5> webben: right.... basically the same thing
<5> as my deductive interfaces thing
<1> bewest: your deductive thing? which thing is that?
<1> oh sorry (reads up)
<3> any movie buffs might find this interesting: http://www3.ifctv.com/thisfilm/greatesthits.php
<4> Team stand-up, I'll be back.
<1> JibberJim, which browser have you found works best with the tabulator?
<5> only firefox works with tabulator
<5> and other than providing the seminal seed I think JibberJim has nothing to do with it
<1> ah okay
<1> interesting interface for browsing the W3C specs
<0> I fixed some bugs in a very early version too bewest
<0> but yes nothing these days at all
<1> i wonder if there's a way to open up links to documents in their own tab/window
<1> hmm uses frames
<1> if you open a doc then you can "open this frame in its own window"
<5> I wonder if they know about greasemonkey
<1> you'd have thought they might have been able to get it validating
<1> or at least create a custom dtd
<1> if they're going to do stuff like <html id="docHTML">
<1> what i don't understand is how to query the thing
<1> if that's not a stupid question
<1> say i want to find stuff about CSS
<1> am i supposed to drill down through the docs?
<4> Back.
<4> How's the morning going?
<4> Or rather, evening for you webben. :)
<1> Fruition: it's okay thanks
<4> Any interesting projects for you today?
<6> please digg http://digg.com/tech_news/Gmail_Down_for_some_users_all_day
<1> Fruition: no largely unproductive today
<4> Ah good good, a relaxing day then I take it?
<1> Fruition: well, except i've been thinking about accessible markdown languages for cms'es
<4> Oh? Going to be writing a piece on them?
<1> Fruition: More like just writing one :)
<4> Ah. :)
<1> Fruition: I want to build a cms that will make certain things easier.
<7> hunterp: haha, one more digg since 10 hours ago
<1> Fruition: e.g. markup abbreviations and acronyms properly etc
<4> I don't seem to have any billible work today so I suppose I'll just write out my features list for myFruition.
<4> Ah excellent.
<1> Fruition: cool :) can't wait to see it :)
<4> Thanks. :) I'll have a draft done before you head off for the evening.
<4> I'm here till 5:30 PST... 1:30 GMT
<4> I just realized I have some rather non-DRY filters for my Gmail account.
<4> Or rather, anti-DRY. :)(
<2> non-dry?
<4> (D)on't (R)epeat (Y)ourself
<4> :)
<4> But I suppose I need them to properly filter out my mail.
<2> hmm
<2> what would such a filter do?
<4> to:(xxx@xxx.org OR xxx@xxx.org OR xxx@xxx.org) -{-from:(xxx@xxx.org) OR -from:(xxx@xxx.org) OR -from:(xxx@xxx.org)}
<1> Fruition: WET - Wasting Energy and Time :)
<4> That basically takes any mail that comes in that doesn't contain my own e-mail in the To:, CC:, or BCC: and applies an "Incoming Mail" filter to it.
<4> I have another filter that takes only the mail that I've BCC:'ed to myself and applies it to Outgoing.
<4> I needed something different than the Sent Mail section because some sent mail isn't for my domain addy, it uses my Gmail addy.
<4> Basically two advanced filters for incoming/outgoing, then individual filters to add additional labels for specific purposes.
<4> I'm a bit of an organizational freak. ;)
<1> Apart from QuirksMode and webdevout, does anyone find any other comparative references for browser standards support useful on a daily basis?
<5> I only occasionally find them useful
<5> I ***ume everything works :-)
<8> ... but people seem to like Nanobot's guide.
<5> I also use a library containing a compatibility layer
<5> if something doesn't work I use quirksmode to figure out why
<5> write the fix
<5> and then in 3 months realize I didn't need to because my library does it already
<5> so generally what is more useful is strict references like objjob
<5> one of these days I might read the ECMA standard
<5> but it's a pain...
<5> need to print it out and whatnot
<1> bewest: yeah i'm making a list of specifications
<1> but the ECMA really needs to be converted to something more useful
<4> :)
<9> WebDragon...
<9> you owe me a back rub!
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