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<0> is there an interactive javascript interpreter for linux? Something like ipython or irb, where I can just try out different javascript commands?
<1> Moz's JS debugger has a console of sorts, iirc.
<1> Venkman.
<2> synic: http://www.squarefree.com/shell/ is nice
<3> so is the jsenv
<3> and edit styles
<4> insin: server not accessible?
<2> bah, looks like it
<4> http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:eOB61r_AJR4J:www.squarefree.com/shell/
<5> hi, is there an even from input type=text that fires right when contents change, onchange fires only when cursor leaves the control
<1> onkeypress
<5> what about mouse events
<1> What sort of mouse events?
<5> cut, paste, drag
<1> You could just google for 'javascript events', probably get a complete list.
<5> yeah sure i could do all these events and filter content changing ones
<5> i just hoped there's easier way
<5> that is not transparent from documentation
<5> guess not
<2> Myrth: if you install the Firebug extension for Firefox, you'll be able to inspect the events fired when you interact with a text input in various ways
<5> insin: thanks
<5> hell to debug for other browsers tho
<5> it's frontend app
<5> no controlled env
<5> insin: nope, only onkeypress etc
<5> setTimeout and comparing to previous value would work
<5> that's what i'm gonna do
<6> setInterval is better.
<6> In my experience.
<7> how would I go about making links fit the entire "button"? http://lastlee.com/tmcnet/
<7> way to be vague :P
<7> I'm trying to make the link have the same properties of the tr (I was trying different methods, and tables seemed to work...)
<8> chicken|work: is the problem you were discussing still present in the page?
<9> what keyboard should i buy?
<9> i have wrist pain
<9> either RSI or carpal tunnel
<10> what's the most efficient method for clearing a float element without visibly making any difference in the render? i find that <hr /> with visibility: hidden; still leaves a pixel or so gap, vertically...
<9> jeef_, add a div with clear:both
<9> or left/right
<9> but there's another way w/o a div
<11> yeah, i figured a div, but that seems like maybe a waste
<11> i imagine you could use anything like <div> or <span>, but <hr /> sure would be nice...
<9> http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html
<9> wow
<9> Nanobot, comes up in a google search
<11> wow, :after
<9> good job
<11> that can't be a good op[tion, :after...
<11> seems like it'd be a compatibility nightmare
<9> jeef, there's something to do about IE
<11> yeah, wickedly hackish, though...
<11> i hate dirtying up my css with crappy hacks; i'll probably throw a damn <div> in or something, rather than deal with that hack..
<11> it's very interesting to read, regardless, though..
<12> anyone here willing to help develop a webpage?
<13> linux2, I just wrote you in #debian..... what's the details?
<14> has anyone here got a clue about xslt?
<15> +point
<16> If you have a question, please just ask it. Do not look for topic experts. Be Specific, Informative, Complete, Concise, and On-topic. Do not ask "Can I ask a question?", "Can anyone help?", or "Does anybody use/know about foo?". Don't make people work to find out what your question is.
<14> (in particular about applying different templates to different elements)
<12> nox-Hand, well its going to be an rpm and .deb packaging site
<12> i have 7 server currently to handle to load
<13> mkay
<12> but i need some help getting going
<13> .deb forever :D
<12> cause its a lot of code to make practically a cms from scratch
<13> linux2, Needs a polish
<12> yeah
<12> rpmmaker.net is the rpm version of the site
<12> looks a little less ugly
<13> Perhaps rounded edges on your textbox, a new layout for your left hand menu, as that looks like crap (( sorry ))
<12> yeah it does
<12> lol
<11> majd, thanks for the link, btw, it was a clearing page that i hadn't seen before. :)
<12> i need really big help with visual design
<12> i mean im fairly new to php and mysql but i seem to be catching on fast
<13> You do indeed, actually :P
<12> its just visual stuff i was never good at
<13> ""Allow anyone to make rpms and debs regardless of registration status"" linux2, that sounds risky?
<12> nox-Hand, in what way?
<13> Some could make invalid evil packages?
<15> linux2: gnome-3.0.rpm containing a gnome-session binary that runs rm -rf / for example.
<17> who said, that they are public? :P
<12> nox-Hand, yes possible but they would have to be installed on the machine in order to do anything.
<13> True
<12> which would not be allowed
<12> just building of the packages
<12> plus i plan on writting a bunch of scripts to monitor building process
<12> to look for malicious stuff going on
<17> is this #talk.about.projects? :S
<12> but then again why would someone want to destroy the site?
<15> linux2: Some people are amused by such antics.
<15> linux2: Have a read of comp.linux.advocacy if you'd like some evidence.
<12> well i will have to work on security once the site is up
<12> currently it is backed up regularly
<15> linux2: Frequent backups of your site aren't going to help the person who downloads the nasty RPM and gets their hard drive wiped out
<12> o, well people who are un registered will not be able to add to the repository
<12> they can build rpms for their own individual download use
<12> but not for others
<12> you have to be registered for that
<18> hi
<18> going to implement if-modified-since on my dynamic pages.. but never done this before.. so double chicking with you before missing with coding
<18> checking*
<18> 1) my script reads values stored in HTTP GET requests from the client and seek for "if-modified-since"
<7> Tresnar_: yes
<18> 2) get the date value, compare it with the one stored in my database, if changed do??? if not do???
<18> if not modified send "not modified"
<19> hi
<18> is it right?
<19> does anynoe know how to select an cl*** in an block in an ID?
<15> Tryblithe: id selector, then descendent selector, then cl*** selector
<15> Tryblithe: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/selector.html
<8> chicken|work: Is there any other way to explain the problem? I'm confused on what "The Links Fitting the Buttons" would look like.
<19> yeah i was there. still hitting some bugs :S
<19> so #IDname >block .cl***name
<19> ?
<15> Tryblithe: ">" is a child selector, not a descendent selector, and it isn't supported by Internet Explorer. I've no idea what "block" is supposed to be in that.
<19> lol i had a blog tag
<19> *block
<15> Tryblithe: HTML doesn't have a <block> element.
<19> .......oh my LOL
<19> no wonder!
<19> =D this seems so funny though
<19> i'll use div then.
<19> #IDName div .cl***name
<15> Tryblithe: Which would match "An element of cl*** "cl***name" that descends from a div element which in turn descends from an element of id "IDName""
<7> Tresnar_: try clicking on the buttons... you'll see that the link's coverage doesn't extend with the button
<19> yup. that is my intention
<7> the hover works fine...
<19> though it doesn't seem to work
<15> Tryblithe: Given your attempt to invent a <block> element, I suggest you make use of the second URL in the channel topic.
<19> lol sorry. that was from last night when it was late
<19> can i paste 2 lines of code in here?
<15> Tryblithe: URLs are better - context is very often very important.
<19> okay. lemme copy the page out
<19> cuz it requires access and all that
<19> argh doesn't save
<19> here. <div id="sidebar"><div style="margin: 0px; float: right; width: 100%;"><div id="sidebartop1"><div id="sidebartop2"><div id="sidebartop3">Events</div></div></div>
<19> <div cl***="event-calendar"><div cl***="month-view"><table>
<19> im trying to make the font size in the table 10px
<15> Tryblithe: HTML does have elements other than "div" ... <h2> for example.
<15> Tryblithe: Don't. Trying to set font sizes in pixels is a really bad idea. It tends to lead to really fragile designs and causes accessibilty problems for users of Internet Explorer.
<19> okay. but how do i even select that table specifically?
<15> Tryblithe: What do you have?
<19> what do you mean?
<15> Tryblithe: You have some attempt to write the stylesheet already? What does the selector look like?
<19> ya i just need this part to finish up
<19> #sidebar div .event-calender { <-- doesn't work
<19> should i give that div a cl*** so i can do #sidebar .cl***name .event-calender ?
<19> oh crap. i spelled calendar wrong
<15> Tryblithe: Should do. Its quite likely you have another style (possibly the browser built in stylesheet) resetting the property on a child element of the element with cl*** "event-calendar"
<19> oh it works without getting the cl*** for the div
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