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<0> but the question is do you want these attributes on all images within links ? :)
<1> yes
<0> then by all means put it on the default a img {}
<0> and border: 0; is a perfect example of same
<1> is it possible to get brain damage by listening to a song ?
<0> Nowadays you can't even go out to a bar with your shirt tucked in without looking like a geek instead of looking like someone who's just not dressed like a slob
<0> freakin hip-hop
<1> I wear t-shirts :P
<0> so do I
<1> I wish the weather was better
<1> I really want to go to the beach
<1> but its been piss poor weather all day
<2> Noia, it's a good idea to leave a blue border around image links
<3> t-shirts tucked in ... lmao
<2> how else will anyone spot it as a link?
<3> i stopped doing that when my mum stopped dressing me
<1> _W_, yea...except the header, which would be really annoying
<0> skwashd: not just t-shirts tucked in but NICE buttoned shirts too
<0> that's what I'm talking about
<2> Noia, not really
<1> _W_, trust me
<2> either an image link does not make sense, or a blue border does
<3> WebDragon: i only wear a business shirt when the client is paying enough to justify it
<2> probably the first in your case, since you insist so
<0> went out wearing a nice silk shirt and got called out on it for tucking it in, from the last person I would have expected to think that looking like a slob was "in-style"
<3> jeans and tshirts/outdoor work wear shifts for me
<3> _not_ tucked in ever
<0> skwashd: same here
<0> though I occasionally do tuck in a long t-shirt
<1> I think I have one button shirt
<1> =\
<0> see, I'm still thin enough I don't have to hide my ***
<0> :P
<3> i had to buy a 3rd one ... had to go visit the same client 3 times in ~1 weeks :(
<4> Why would that mean 3 shirts?
<0> _W_ a row of buttons is pretty obvious as a convention for links
<4> and why does renumeration relate to dress?
<0> JibberJim: he didn't feel like doing laundry three days in a row
<0> for the one button-down shirt he owned
<0> =8)
<1> can't be seen with the same shirt
<0> even if it's a white shirt
<2> WebDragon, in which case having them be lists of text content styled to look like buttons makes a hell of a lot more sense than having images
<3> JibberJim: cos they were a fashion house ... and i couldn't keep on showing up in the same clothes
<0> _W_ there's other ways to do it, that work for print vs screen
<3> and i was charging goof money
<2> WebDragon, well, I was ***uming we weren't talking print; printed documents rarely need navigational links
<0> <ul><li><a ...><img alt="a button"><span>NEWS</span></a></li></ul>
<0> hide the span on screen
<0> hide the image on print
<0> skwashd: what does goof money look like?
<2> WebDragon, that would make sure that on a screen, I could not copy/paste the text
<1> no fair!
<0> _W_ why you
<0> _W_ why you'd want to copy/paste a link text ..
<3> WebDragon: i dunno ... it all goes via EFT :P
<2> WebDragon, are you saying that it's ok to remove that functionality for all users since you think no user would want to do it?
<0> no I'm saying it depends on the design circumstances of the site as to whether you use graphical buttons or not
<2> there are also more and more browser plugins and such that operate on selected text
<2> from looking the word up to using it as a keyword when adding the page to a bookmarks database
<0> and this is a technique for at least allowing them to print as text links
<2> WebDragon, it's a poor workaround when there is a correct solution
<0> and let us not forget you have alt-text in there for the link
<2> so I'll have to disable images if I want to select a word or sub-word?
<2> sorry, I'll shut up about usability now, I got work to do
<0> it's not like I'm advocating replacing all text with images, sheesh :)
<0> perhaps I should point out that nearly all the sites I've worked on in the last year and a half *do not* have image-based links
<0> I merely acknowledge the occasional need for it if the design warrants
<1> AAARGH!
<1> why is this image that is 9px tall, inside a 9px tall div....suddebly being pushed OUTSIDE the div ?
<0> padding?
<1> I checked that and set it to 0px;
<5> floating?
<1> Munter, the div is float bottom.
<0> if the images is floated (either by css or by the align attribute) that would let it escape the div
<5> there is no float bottom
<0> s/images is/image is/
<5> Might also be because the image is inline and the vertical-align is off
<5> maybe there is even a whitespace in there also
<5> It's really hard to tell without seeing
<6> image is by default inline
<1> Munter, no white space
<0> Munter: that could be, too. whitespace is a problem sometimes
<0> *and it shouldn't be*
<5> indeed
<5> but again, without actually seeing, it's quite hard to debug
<0> I mean, it's not python for cryin out loud
<5> or make *shudder*
<0> gah
<0> :D
<0> Noia: got a url to the code online?
<6> whitespace is a reason i don't bother nicely indenting my html. bloody anonymous nodes
<1> www.0xDEAD.com
<6> yes, i own that site /jk
<0> `validate css www.0xDEAD.com
<7> The stylesheet at www.0xDEAD.com contains valid content according to http://tinyurl.com/jg8jd
<0> whoopsy
<1> WebDragon, all the lill stub images for the corners on the drop shadows are not staying inside the divs
<0> validator reported an error with the xml, miniE lied
<0> `validate www.0xDEAD.com
<7> The URL www.0xDEAD.com is not valid and contains 21 errors. Please see http://tinyurl.com/s3237
<0> ah there we go
<0> Noia: for the noshade thing use noshade="noshade" provided it's still a valid attribute for <hr>
<1> WebDragon, yea, Im currently workin on the errors
<5> There is really no reason to use an attribute though. It can all be controlled by css
<0> on some occasions css is inadequate
<0> table borders for example are a serious pain in css
<5> they are? Havent noticed. And I have done ltos of them
<0> they don't look at ALL the same
<5> The only thing that i dont know how to do in css is use borders based on cols
<0> Noia: yeah I see what you mean
<1> WebDragon :(
<1> fix it!!
<0> you can't validate the css until the xhtml validates, thanks to the way they parse it
<6> the rules attribute dun help the tables?
<0> so that's a problem that has to be resolved first
<1> ...
<1> feck
<1> thats quite a bit of templateing!
<5> making the images blocklevel solves the problem
<1> blocklevel ?
<0> display: block; ?
<5> So I guessed right with the inline guess :)
<1> yay!
<1> the display:block for img.blogBoxShadeStub worked
<5> ... like I sdia
<5> *said
<5> I like your moods
<5> I though of doing something like that once. I just wanted to base it on self portraits. Never got around to making them :)
<1> Munter, Yea, I got bored
<0> woot, my silktide sitescore went up a point
<8> mornin#
<1> how do I get two div's to sit next to each other nicely ?
<2> promise them a treat?
<5> float one of them
<6> float both their boats :D
<1> ...
<1> http://0xdead.com/
<1> arrhu!
<0> ouch, it was working before! :(
<0> what I usually do, Noia, is float the navbar, and give the content div a margin equal to the width of the floated nav div
<0> left margin, that is
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