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<0> how is using a standard a hack?
<1> bewest: Isn't a hack generally making creative use of whatever tools you're given?
<1> Hacks can be harmless or they can present additional complications
<2> yeah yeah
<1> Depends on the nature of the specific hack
<2> but 'css hack' has a special meaning
<2> usually synonymous with 'stupid newb hack that's gonna cause problems'
<3> special....like the short bus
<2> heh
<4> am I correct in my belief that ipowerweb ****s?
<2> probably
<2> have you ever seen a company with 'i' prepended to its name not ****?
<4> hehe
<4> theyre now telling me that they require people to purchase a dedicated ssl from them, and will not accept a cert from anywhere else, though they charge a ridiculous amount for it themselves
<4> I need to tell this person to get rid of ipowerweb
<2> :)
<4> does anyone use joomla? if so know of good hosts to use for joomla?
<4> reisio: what do you use (host) ?
<2> friend from an old MMOG I used to play hosts me for free
<2> unlimited everything
<2> illusionfxnet.com
<2> I forget if they do free hosting anymore
<4> cool
<4> reisio: would you happen to know of a site that has trustworthy host reviews?
<2> I don't think so :/
<2> I bet that webmasterforums or whatever has some
<2> webmastertalk?
<2> something like that, that big forum
<4> cool thx
<5> hey, there's a web page with a macromedia flash video that i like. is it possible to somehow save the video to be able to view it offline?
<6> if you can get the absolute url to the swf file you can open that and save it with File->Save as
<5> absolute url?
<7> Which is a simple matter with livehttpheaders.
<5> i'm not familiar with that term
<4> hrmm 1&1 host looks good but expensive!
<6> yes http://www.somepage.com/stuff/yourswfmovie.swf
<2> chessguy: what webpage?
<5> i don't have the link in front of me
<2> guess
<2> youtube? video.google.com?
<5> no, it was a specialized site
<2> chessguy: you might be able to just hit CTRL+I in Firefox, find the swf and save it
<2> but Flash people like to do silly things like embed Flash inside other Flash sometimes
<2> then you'd have to "decompile" the first Flash file, find the link to the other, and get that one
<5> i tried saving the page the flash was on, but that didn't work
<2> and there's no guarantee it'll just be two levels :p
<5> so i need to get the file name from the properties or something, and try that
<6> chessguy: you can also try to look into your Temporary Internet Files Folder and search for an swf
<8> ok, i'm not a good programmer, but boy have I come a long way from the crap I used to write
<5> i really oughta learn a thing or two about flash
<8> flash is too flashy
<9> swimrr, you say that 6-7 times during a programmer career (at least; possibly more, I am still learning)
<8> _W_: oh, I don't doubt that
<5> yeah, but it's good to know about it when you're messing about with someone else's site
<8> but the code I'm re-writing now is really crappy ;-)
<5> well, i'll play with it. thanks
<8> amazing how much code you can delete when you use CSS ! ;-)
<6> :)
<8> i'm probably still a crappy programmer....just less crappy LOL
<4> anyone hear bad things about bluehost? prices look ok and reviews...
<9> crazy thunder here now; the bangs and growels overlap eachother
<9> sounds like someone revving a car or something
<6> swimrr: you can just be a crappy programmer if your site should work on Internet Explorer :)
<9> swim, here's a nice test; http://google.com/search?q=bluehost+****s
<8> jow_: nope, mine have to work on FF
<4> hehe thx _W_
<6> swimrr: than there is a chance that it isn't that crappy :)
<8> true that - having FF makes you a better programmer me thinks
<0> huh?
<6> and it's a matter of fact that it won't change with IE7 :)
<10> Guys, I am getting this weird problem where one of my GIFs just doesn't download .... what am i supposed to do?
<4> ok... i think i'm down to 3 hosts, 1&1, bluehost, and starlogic... anyone have any thoughts on these hosts?
<10> On the page I did a view source.. and its correctly showing up as an IMG tag
<10> right-clicking on the spot where it should show up in IE.. and choosing the "ShowPicture" option displays it!
<10> Its just a small gif... 700 bytes!
<10> does anyone know what could be going on there?
<6> swim: my site is hosted @ 1&1 and i never experienced any bigger problems
<10> Coz all other gifs load up no problems at all
<2> CBro2006: position: relative;
<4> jow_: expensive though huh?
<10> whats positioning got to do with it?
<2> CBro2006: erm...
<2> are you trying to make sense of an IE bug?
<10> The gif is HIDDEN for some reason... but it is positioned in the correct spot
<2> it's a bug, that's what it is
<2> there's no sense to it, otherwise it wouldn't _be_ a bug
<6> swim: better a bit more expensive and stable than cheap and crappy :)
<10> so I put a style on the IMG?
<2> CBro2006: that'd work
<2> style="position: relative;"
<10> hmm let me give it a go
<10> thats some weird **** dude
<10> coz all other images work just fine!
<2> yes, yes it is
<10> nope no luck
<10> that did not work either
<2> CBro2006: LINK
<10> <img src="img/circle-ball-dark-antialiased.gif" height="20" width="20" alt="loading.." style="position: relative;" >
<9> what a poor alt text!
<10> thanks!
<11> :)
<2> Sembiance: agreed
<11> hehe
<12> In CSS, is there a shorthand for #a c, #b c { blah blah }?
<2> how exactly do you imagine getting that any shorter?
<9> #a#b c {... would be shorter
<12> #a #b * c { blah blah }
<9> (no not valid syntax heh)
<2> wow
<2> you could sae all of three keystrokes
<2> save*
<12> _W_: I know, I made it up. Thank you.
<9> dropdrive, I was talking about mine
<12> _W_: aww, shucks.
<9> reisio, presumably actual examples use longer cl*** names
<2> presumably one could...use shorter cl*** names
<12> _W_: Is there a way to put #a .b { ... } inside #a { ... }?
<9> you mean like #a {#a .b { ... } } ?
<9> yes, look, I just did!
<12> _W_: Yes, but without repeating the #a?
<9> it's not valid with or without the inner #a
<9> you can usually accomplish the same by using multiple cl***es tho
<9> ie have one cl*** that is the product of #a and #a .b, and one cl*** that is the rest of #a .b
<12> _W_: Thanks again.
<9> actually, cascading should handle that just fine
<9> why did you ask?
<12> _W_: Just experimenting. Here's another question, if you don't mind: what's the difference between #a #b { ... } and #a, #b { ... }?
<9> beyond that the second is even slightly useful?
<9> #a #b is equivalent to just #b
<7> Well, in one document it is.
<9> well, presuming #b is always a child of #a, othervise using ids wouldn't make much sense
<7> But if it's part of a stylesheet applied to different documents, where #b isn't always a descendant of #a..
<12> _W_: Got it, thanks.
<9> mattmcc I'd say that if you do such things you probably want to use cl***es anyway
<1> There are cases in which it would make sense
<1> You also might use it if you need a higher specificity
<13> nite nite folks
<1> Hehehe http://iconfactory.com/news.asp?day=1
<14> Are logs of this channel available online someplace?
<15> yaeeya
<2> Nanobot: hahah, nice
<14> majd: Do you have a link handy? The only page I tuned up through Google is having PHP errors :/
<15> Tresnar, for what?
<15> that was my way of saying hey
<14> Oh. I interpreted as a typo'd "Yeah"
<16> Nanobot: that **** crashed my firefox after I tried to watch #2
<1> :(
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