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<0> that wasn't my intention, was arguing more toward the polar definitions of the terms atheist and theist
<1> That's why I started using "think" instead of "belief"
<2> Nanobot: well, when an xtian talks about their 'belief', they're explicitly not allowed to doubt
<2> at any level
<1> hax: Well I'm not an xtian :P
<0> I think if we use Nanobot's model then he's right.
<2> yes, me too
<0> and I'll concede that.
<2> i think the important thing, is that none of us are christians
<2> heh
<0> I can believe|think there is life elsewhere in the universe but I have no power to prove it yet.
<0> so Nanobot wins that
<0> oh teddy bear!
<2> plus, hey, teddy bears
<2> argument over



<2> lol
<2> paypal is confusing sometimes
<2> i know when i was in the sandbox, there was some way i could download paypal's cert
<2> for the encrpytion
<2> but now i just cant find it
<3> Awesome. Looks like I *might* be going to web directions north in 2 weeks.
<2> to what?
<1> Where would you buy little portable cushions to sit on?
<4> hax: i think night ripper is exactly what it needs to be. its explored from a pop perspective, not hip-hop
<3> hax: http://north.webdirections.org/
<2> Arpegius: has this guy ever really dug into hiphop?
<2> Arpegius: i bet if he traded libraries with cut chemist, he'd produce the most amazing ****
<2> heh
<2> TylerR: that looks totally sweet
<3> Yeah, I might be going to represent my company.
<2> awesome
<3> Our head web developer is endorsing me and will help sell the idea to the managers.
<4> he's all about the digital tho. cut's on wax. greg gillis (girl talk) gets on stage with a laptop and pretty much queues. never been to a show but the pix look pretty lame, save for the fact that he's supposed to have a crazy stage/crowd pesence
<2> Arpegius: yeah, it's so hard to tell these days if the dj even is doing anything
<2> Arpegius: i suspect usually they're not
<4> SO true
<2> i love when i see them on tv, and they're clearly just scratching like one sample while some music plays
<4> final scratch is totally abused
<2> yet they have a place on the set because they 'look' hiphop
<2> lol
<2> i dunno, i think those products are kind of neat
<2> they still require you to have some skills
<4> its amazing
<4> yeah. its just _abused_
<2> oh definitely
<2> Arpegius: but honestly you could just open winamp these days and play a set with xfading and a soundboard to play a few samples
<2> which is disgraceful
<2> but i'm sure people do it
<4> alright, im out guys
<1> A few more GB freed
<1> I'll miss you
<2> peace Arpegius
<4> back on monday
<4> peace
<2> Dorward: that costs money
<2> and time
<5> hax: About and 20 minutes per week
<2> Dorward: and then to retrieve the stuff later
<5> Nanobot: If its worth crying over, its worth burning
<6> ...
<5> hax: Umm. Put disc in player. Press play.
<2> Dorward: i'd rather just delete stuff than try to archive it
<1> I'm crying over Arpegius leaving
<0> I have 160GB backup server and a 60Gb portable hard drive
<6> hax: until your client calls and wants you to revise something you did years earlier
<0> constant burning just got annoying
<2> WebDragon: err, i meant downloaded media
<6> if I'm going to keep it, I'll burn it. otherwise it gets watched and trashed
<2> lol enjoy
<0> My best friend is my downloaded media archive :p
<1> I'm going to get paid to go to school for a week



<0> 320GB drive of nothing but music and movies and a 160GB in his desktop
<1> Some Linux security training course.
<0> nice
<6> oh that wasn't to you, Nanobot, that was to zeros
<6> apologies for the confusion
<0> WebDragon, :P
<1> WebDragon: I have you on ignore
<0> Nanobot, I'm going to get paid to stay in a hotel for 3 days next week :D
<6> lol
<6> I'll be back
<6> (:
<2> http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3156730
<0> hax, most elusive piece of vaporware ever.
<2> wow, i have no idea how i did this with the sandbox
<2> Zeros: seriously
<2> Zeros: thats why i linked it :)
<0> hax, Makes me wonder if they ever really worked on it at all.
<0> I mean, if you wanted to keep your company in the media and make sure gamers knew who you were, how better than to make up a product and release 'awesome' screenshots now and then and feign releasing it
<1> If Terra is an esper, shouldn't she be able to beat Setzer at any card game? The root of "esper" is ESP.
<2> Zeros: lol
<0> Nanobot, and the root of Nanobot is Nano, so are you really small?
<2> hahaha
<2> pwned
<1> Yes I am.
<0> oh okay :)
<2> hahah
<1> But it isn't the size that matters.
<1> It's how you use it.
<1> Time for a dramatic change.
<7> This name is more fun, because some people mistake it for a girl's name.
<2> i dont understand, in paypals sandbox it says one thing
<2> in my real account something else
<2> and its not the balance :P
<2> i'm pretty sure i'm supposed to download their certificate to encrypt with...
<7> Before: http://www.cvc.edu/catalog/
<7> After: http://www.cvc.edu/redesign/
<7> I haven't tested in Safari yet :(
<7> I tested in Konqueror and it looked okay
<2> Zeros: http://www.3drealms.com/duke4/
<2> Zeros: read their comments
<2> i lol'd
<7> Safari is such a piece of crap. Not nearly as bad as IE, but for a minority browser, it's crap :(
<0> Nanobe, other than that it looks good.
<0> Nanobe, hardly, FF is crap
<0> slow as hell, horrible form handling
<0> How do I tell Firefox to fill in an entire form for me?
<0> from the autocomplete memory
<7> Safari has so many CSS and DOM support problems
<7> and they tend to be hard to work around
<7> I'm talking about from a web designer's point of view
<0> And the sheer number of float bugs in FF is embarr***ing, at least Safari doesn't have a broken float model.
<8> Zeros: I think it takes an extension to do that, of which several are available, iirc.
<7> Every browser has float bugs
<7> Safari doesn't support background-repeat correctly
<0> and Firefox doesn't support float correctly
<7> That's pretty embarr***ing
<7> Like I said, no browser does
<0> Nanobe, its a single case of background-repeat
<0> no different than Firefox's expand a float to 100% bug
<7> One which a previous design of my site ran across
<0> and I've run into the issue with FF before :p
<7> I've run into float bugs with IE (obviously), Firefox, Opera, and Konqueror on this design
<7> IE was by far the worst, and the rest were more or less equally problematic


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