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<0> cursor
<0> Yeah.
<1> PseudoPlacebo: http://www.echoecho.com/csscursors.htm
<0> Cool thanks.
<2> that whole chapter is rather interesting in fact
<3> Just got another domain. Had too. :S
<0> Using $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR']; how would I make it so that a .php file could only be used by my own server?
<0> if($_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'] = "localhost"){} or something?
<0> I'm not sure what the remote address would be for itself. =\
<4> PseudoPlacebo: ##php is thatta way *points*
<0> Well, yeah I know.
<0> But it's still relevent to #web too.
<4> no, it's not
<4> PseudoPlacebo: and, I'd suggest you use == instead of =, given it's a comparison
<0> Uh.. yeah it is still relevent to web.
<0> Seeing as how PHP is a web language, and it all has to do with uh- a website.



<4> PseudoPlacebo: argue it how you like, this is not the right place.
<4> and, PHP isn't only a web language
<5> PseudoPlacebo: Yes, but ##php is packed with people who use PHP, while #web has lots of people who hate PHP.
<0> It's not only a language.
<0> Dorward: Oh yeah, I'm not contesting that.
<0> GwaiLo: I never said it was only anything- I said it was language and therefore relevant.
<4> PseudoPlacebo: I don't understand why this is a difficult thing to deal with
<4> PseudoPlacebo: as it is, you've already started getting solutions in ##php
<0> Sure.
<0> But that's not what I'm saying.
<0> PHP problems are relevant to #web.
<6> if I have a series of divs above a table on a page, what would make the table be on top (covering) them?
<6> oh, nm - got it :)
<7> Does anyone a way of creatying a drag and drop content on a webpage so that the layout can be manipulated by the viewer?
<8> Magical1: designmode
<7> thanks
<5> Magical1: YUI has a drag and drop library
<7> thanks
<7> are they practicle solutions?
<7> sorry silly question
<9> webben: yo
<10> sh1mmer!
<9> hey Chris
<11> sh1mmer, hello :)
<11> sh1mmer, any more luck on the GW front?
<9> webben: no, talking to Aaron though
<11> ah good :)
<5> GW?
<11> gw-micro
<5> They, they behind Window-Eyes. What's the objective? Getting access to software for testing without insane license costs?
<11> Dorward, that's not a problem actually
<11> Dorward, window-eyes make a 30-minute per Windows session demo free
<11> problem is they only put the most recent version online
<11> *gw-micro make
<0> Anyone know of any good tutorials on preventing spam or flooding in things where a user contributes items to a DB?
<7> Dorward: can you point me to an example where YUO has been used please?
<7> sorry I meant YUI
<5> Magical1: Umm. The documentation for YUI links to examples.
<7> okay .. will look at that then
<7> Dorward: got it thanks
<10> if I create a session on bar.foo.com - I guess it can't be read from baz.foo.com - i.e. it'd be a different session ?
<10> right?
<12> if you give the cookie domain as .foo.com
<5> krisp: Depends how you implement the session.
<2> session?
<2> you mean cookie?
<10> hmm - just a bog standard php cookie based session
<2> I believe php uses the whole domain by default, yes
<10> _W_ so I'm screwed then ?
<2> ask in #php or check the manual to be sure
<2> I'm sure it's configurable
<10> already asked in #php - got no answer :(
<2> ask your system administrator
<2> or if you are the system administrator, check the manual
<10> lol - I am the sytem administrator :P
<10> scary thoguhts hug
<10> huh
<13> :)
<14> hi, is there any good css replacement for the border, cellspacing and cellpadding attributes of a table? or are we doomed to deal with them forever?



<5> Sembiance: Don't do that again.
<5> informed*
<5> aditsu: boder, border-spacing/border-collapse, padding
<14> Dorward: but do they do the same thing?
<13> Dorward: Information received
<5> aditsu: Roughly
<5> s/boder/border/
<13> Dorward: although to be fair, I haven't done that in several weeks
<14> hm.. from what I've seen so far, they're somewhat different
<15> what event do you get when a the user scrolls an element with style='overflow:scroll;' ?
<5> aditsu: Not really. The main difference is that the border property takes normal border values, while the border attribute does weird stuff that doesn't involve an integer->pixel relationship.
<14> well, also the css attributes define the border/spacing around an element, while the table attrs define those things "between cells" and also around the table
<5> aditsu: Well, yes, but that's just a case of applying the properties to slightly different combinations of elements, which gives you a lot more flexibility.
<14> I'll do some tests then..
<5> What do people tend to use for running search engines these days? I'm pondering htdig.
<16> I've used htdig in the past and it wasn't bad.
<16> I havent setup a search engine for a long while though
<17> Dorward: checkout um...
<13> Dorward: I use Lucene
<17> the one mozdex uses
<13> Dorward: Which I believe is the same one Wikipedia uses.
<17> Dorward: nutch.org
<5> Sembiance: hmm, that's in Java isn't it? Does it require a servelet runtime engine?
<5> reisio: Ah, based on Lucene. Sounds quite nice, but looks like it'll need Tomcat or similar, which I'd like to avoid. Thanks though.
<17> yeah personally I would avoid anything Java-based :p
<17> just the only one with some notoriety I know of
<17> notability, perhaps :p
<13> Dorward: I run csourcesearch.net with it. Hundreds of millions of entries. Yes, when I first found out that it was Java I was worried. But it's really impressive.
<13> Dorward: I just wrote a quick Java daemon and have my PHP pages open a local socket to them send the request and receive the reply.
<5> hmm, that might be feasible.
<5> s/PHP/Perl/ ;)
<13> Dorward: Then I run the Java daemon in a screen session with screen -L so I have a log of it's output
<13> Dorward: It's worked amazingly well. I at first used FULLTEXT MySQL indexes, but those scale VERY badly when you have millions+ amount of entries.
<5> :)
<13> rofl
<13> have an interesting idea for a website your going to be building?
<5> Sembiance: No, just want to slap a search on my personal site.
<5> Since its being moved to a new server soon. (Woo! Jumping two revisions of Debian)
<13> If it won't grow to millions of entries, and is already in MySQL, FULLTEXT indexes do work well.
<18> hi I wana know if anyone has suggestions for this:
<18> I have a benefit description table with 4 columns... site is directed towards elderly, so my viewport has to viewable on 800x600 and font easily readable.
<18> right now everything is squished together pretty tight, and low and behold the darn company added two more plans meaning two more columns.
<18> so i was looking for design ideas to help with this issue
<18> http://securitychoice.rwbrownins.com/summaryofbenefits.php
<18> I could move the nav box opening up the dead space to the left, but that would give me one more column space
<17> indeed
<19> Can anyone tell me why this JavaScript (in greasemonkey) isn't wokring? http://dpaste.com/4990/
<17> cythrawll: all that space on the left is wasted
<19> It works if I try and replace a partial match for the login input but not the whole thing.
<18> yes but getting rid of it wouldn't necessarily give me two more columns worth of space
<3> omg.. getting the tears of light in Zora's domain is insane!
<13> sipher: link
<3> link? I'm talking about Zelda: Twilight Princess. heh
<13> oh
<20> does anyone know a database of all cities and countries of the world?
<17> Hilaus: what for?
<13> sipher: I thought there was a website that Zora owned, and on her domain there was some sort of 'tears of light' section or demo that was insane
<17> Sembiance: so ignant :p
<20> reisio: for a register form... I want that users let me know where they live...
<5> Hilaus: So let them type the answer.
<17> Hilaus: why do you want to know that?
<20> Dorward: but I don't want that they type abbreviations
<3> I'm not sure I like ZTP.. it's nice I guess.. but the developers have absolutely no imagination.. they just combined Metroid Prime with Zelda. The music, tears of light, light/dark worlds, restoring light, magnetic walls, portals.. all just slight modifications.. and there's these portal gaurdians that I swear are an exact copy from MP.
<21> Dorward: in the .uk, what does 'VAT' mean? is it some kind of tax?
<5> hax: Value Added Tax
<21> Dorward: does not everyone have to pay it?
<17> hax: acronymfinder.com / wikipedia.org
<20> reisio: I want that when a user registers.. in the field of location, it shows a menu with all countries and all cities of the world, and he can choose his city
<5> hax: Only businesses have to pay it, it can be claimed back under some circumstances, it doesn't apply to everything, and its different on different things (although its 17.5% on most things).
<21> Dorward: oh, ok, that explains it
<5> Hilaus: That would be a huge menu that would take far more time to scroll through then most users could be bothered with.
<11> Hilaus, http://gnswww.nga.mil/geonames/GNS/index.jsp is a database of pretty much all placenames


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