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<0> lol
<1> TEAM NINJA!
<2> cool
<1> together we will sneak past the world!
<3> lol
<0> haahah
<3> reisio, is king of IE bugs
<1> :/
<0> err, wait
<4> hax: /malt/. Please :)
<3> hax, you can take it from here?
<0> majd: whats up with the top?
<0> majd: they don't line up
<0> majd: almost :)
<0> majd: the top right box and the top left box are not in a line
<3> http://jtaby.com:81/Picture%204.png
<3> hax, i added margins
<3> cause that makes it look better
<0> wtf ninjasauce
<1> TM
<0> majd: wow thats ****in cool
<0> majd: you think it looks better with the spaced boxes on the right?
<0> majd: btw, you should start irc'ing from your cheaphacks account
<1> YOU CAN DO ANYTHING at foocom
<0> hahahahah
<1> the impossible IS POSSIBLE at foocom
<1> :p
<0> reisio: except write good regexps
<1> hello, and welcome TO foocom :p
<0> because i forgot the .
<0> lol
<1> this is foocom and welcome TO YOU who have come TO FOOCOM!
<0> hah
<0> yea
<1> ::p
<0> i hate cybersquatters, even foocom.com is taken
<0> wtf
<0> majd: are you still poking at it?
<3> no
<0> okay
<0> i'll make the FX and IE things separate then
<0> majd: if you take that 10px margin out... thats what breaks IE and the bottom border?
<0> brb, lunch
<2> heard this the other day
<2> thought it roked...
<2> http://whatshouldichoose.blogspot.com/2005/02/rest-of-world.html
<0> majd: btw, if you want me to help you test your site later, i'll bang against it for a while until it breaks
<3> back
<0> but brb, gotta meet a friend for lunch
<3> k, peace
<3> yaaay i'm getting a free ipod nano
<5> how?
<5> did you buy a macbook or somethin
<6> he probably did those survey things
<3> hays, my friend is buying a macbook
<3> i already bought one
<3> i gave my ipod to my dad
<3> and my dad probably never uses it
<3> and it's half way across the world
<3> so my friend is just giving me his
<3> http://www.citastic.com/reference.php
<3> anyone think the submit button is too hard to see
<3> or know it's a button?
<7> there's no submit button there
<3> yeah
<3> well
<3> i guess it's not very visible after all
<7> in fact, I didn't recognize those white blobs as input fields at all at first
<7> borders are good man
<7> as it is they're indistinguishable from spans that accidentally got both foreground and background color white
<8> :)
<1> Sembiance: g
<1> Sembiance: e
<1> Sembiance: d
<3> W_, you still there?
<7> why?
<7> I'm always here, but not always reading, so it sometimes takes a while for me to respond
<7> don't let that stop you from adressing me tho
<3> k, cool
<9> Hi
<3> uh, I was just looking for some other input
<9> does anyone know if any language for web development could help me force other websites to stay inside of my frame?
<9> I love frames, because for the most part I can surf all the webpages I like to visit inside of my frames
<3> be hard, be very harsh, I'm releasing the site before friday, ideally within the next 3 days, and i want to make sure it's as good as it can be, W_ (that last part was so you know i'm addressing you)
<9> and I can keep all of my personal files, bookmarks, and network with friends in the left hand frame.
<7> Kaballah, get a decent browser where you can tile viewports
<7> there's no reliable way to do what you want
<9> Can you program the webpage to talk to the different viewports?
<10> Kaballah, probably with JavaScript and GET requests.
<9> cool
<10> It's not something that's really a good idea on the web today, however.
<9> Can you think of any other methods of keepings external sites in frames, even if its unreliable?
<3> how can i view firefox's default sheet?
<9> I can keep google in a frame, but when I click on googles external links I leave the frame
<10> Being as frames **** for many reasons, and were mostly used as a hack before server-side scripting was commonplace on shared hosting solutions etc.
<9> Well I have found a use
<3> W_, i think i forgot to give you a link, http://citastic.com
<10> Kaballah, there's no way thats even vaguely reliable, and forcing your users to stay in frames is, at best, obnoxious.
<9> I don't have users. 8)
<9> It is a personal site
<9> I like to stay in the frames to help me navigate
<10> The answer is still no afaik.
<9> okay
<9> Maybe I could hire a rentacoder
<7> well majd, I dunno if you know this, but I kind of hate fixed-width sites
<3> lol no i didn't
<3> why?
<3> i don't like fluid layouts
<7> because it uses too little of my screen
<3> they look like crap on widescreen computers
<7> text cramped together in really thin columns
<7> majd, I disagree
<11> majd: that's one thing max-width is for
<3> W_ text in thin columns is easier to read
<7> it's quite possible to make a layout look good at any width
<3> like newspapers
<7> majd, for ALL persons?
<7> no room for personal variation?
<3> scienfically
<3> scientifically
<7> well allow me to advance science by disproving this theory
<7> I like my text REALLY long
<3> lol
<9> What if I have my server load the webpages first, and then display them?
<7> "Writer(s): Enter the name of the writers (First Middle Initial Last) seperated by "AND". ex. John K. Smith AND Robert A. Williams" <-- that's FOUR LINES, incredibly jarring
<3> W_, besides, for my specific site, it's very unnecessary to have a fluid layout, because 99% of the site is form filling
<11> W_: most people can read faster if the text width is within a certain min/max
<7> WebDragon|away, I'm willing to bet most of my money that the ideal width varies with person
<11> really long text is difficult to follow without some sort of visual clue to help the eye track back to the next line
<7> and as such, fixing a width is bad
<3> the form would stay in fixed width nonetheless, because it's damn near idiotic to make a form that stretches
<7> WebDragon|away, again, differs from person to person, as per proof: me
<7> I find long lines much easier to follow
<7> majd, idiotic, or hard?
<11> yeah but how long? 1280x1024 screen width lines ? :)
<3> well, it's hard for the user, idiotic for the developer
<12> that's depressing... IE still can't handle unicode
<7> WebDragon|away, maximized 1600x1200 at 96 DPI
<12> it still can't fallback to a font which contains the character :(
<11> w_ what point size text?
<12> by still i'm talking about IE7 RC1
<7> depends on the font I'd say, but as small as I can read it ideally
<11> webben: isn't rc2 out ?
<12> WebDragon|away, i downloaded whichever it was today
<11> w_ 9, 10, 12, 14 ?
<7> the less I have to move my eyes without scanning over text, the better
<12> in about it just says "release candidate"
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