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<0> that doesn't work either
<0> for some reason
<0> oh
<0> nevermind
<0> i have 5KB of html/css positioned with em's and %'s that renders pixel-identical in every browser
<0> is that a miracle or what
<1> you could try to use content-negotiation (and then hit yourself squarely into IE6's wall that it won't cache content-negotiated materials)
<0> the IE7 team destroyed my computer too
<1> say, does IE7 handle content-negotiation better?
<2> somebody want to tell me why a nav bar that scrolls with me would be a bad idea?
<1> the nav bar could be hiding content
<1> that's ***uming opera mini provides position: fixed
<2> well, if the content is in the middle of the page, and the nav stays to the left of it, is that ok?
<2> and presuming we handle degradation to niche browsers properly
<1> what if the width of the browser window is as wide as the nav bar?
<2> ok, ill take that as an 'ok'
<0> Line: 84 Context : div.logo, div.logogif
<0> Invalid number : line-height Parse Error - [empty string]
<0> my line-height isn't empty
<3> let's see it
<0> oh, it wants 0px
<0> instead of 0
<3> no it doesn't
<3> that's insanity!
<0> it validated when I added the px's
<3> INSANITY!
<0> I KNOW
<0> yes
<0> http://www.google.com/search?q=validator%20line-height%20px
<0> common prob
<3> of course...
<3> there's no good reason to set line-height to 0 :p
<0> it's for IE6
<0> my website is 30% FF/50% IE6 sadly
<3> there's no good reason to set line-height to 0 ... for IE6 :p
<0> i don't want my IE6 users reading anything
<0> heh
<4> ajax
<0> are negative margins bad for design?
<0> nevermind. seems to work
<5> ivan`: check IE too, you might need to add position: relative;
<0> it works everywhere except IE 5.5
<0> which is < 1%
<6> What server side languages do you guys use?
<7> mod_perl.
<8> mod+php
<8> mod_php
<8> Windrose I installed awstats for the first time the other day :P
<7> krisp: complicated program, that. Not well written.
<8> Windrose hmmm - need an internal perl box I think
<8> then i might use it
<8> Windrose otherwise I've just written a nice CMS in php
<8> :P
<9> I have a design using several div's some of which are nested. I have an image that is in 3 parts. The first part sits just to the sdie of the design, the middle runs straight through the middle, and the end is visible on the right outside the design again.
<9> However the middle of the tick won't display properly in firefox
<9> in IE it is fine, but not in firefox. I think it may be hidden behind several other layers, and I can't figure out how to make it visible.
<10> gary: url?
<6> what is mod?
<7> larrywells: Apache modules.
<6> that is a programming language?
<5> larrywells: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_language
<7> larrywells: no. But Perl and PHP are. mod_perl and mod_php integrate Perl and PHP respectively as modules in Apache.
<6> that is just php running inside apache right?
<7> Or Perl, yes.
<6> JSP is not a good option?
<7> larrywells: depends on for what.
<6> I just do not want to be limited with PHP, i am currently only learning PHP
<7> larrywells: unless I had Java intergration to do, I wouldn't chose it myself.
<7> larrywells: I'd suggest learning programming period; without focusing on any specific language.
<6> Oh I am, just want to focus on PHP to do my web dev work
<5> in my opinion PHP is a good start, languages are pretty similar so you'll probably be able to learn another one when you have one
<6> Ruby seems to have a steep learning curve
<8> Windrose I've just been blown off a little from henny :(
<8> lol - BY henny :(
<10> In my opinion php is a bad start. It depends on root level functions, has no namespaces, and has a lot of similar functions but with no consequense as to the naming or the order of the arguments
<10> Lots of people that start with PHP have to essentially unlearn stuff before they can take on another programming language
<7> krisp: I'm sorry to hear that ...
<6> So what do you use Munter
<11> Munter: agreed
<8> :(
<11> lern perl or python instead
<11> they're /far/ more useful
<10> larrywells: Right now the only thing I program is Javascript. But other than that, C or Java
<11> PHP's only advantage is that it's hella-easy to write webpages in since it's inline like ASP
<7> gxti: ... which isn't an advantage.
<11> but that doesnt entirely counterbalance the fact that as a language it is a piece of crap :|
<11> s/entirely //
<6> gxti, what server side language do you use?
<11> larrywells: in the past, perl, but im considering starting to use python as well
<6> is python that good?
<8> python looks nice
<8> good string manipulation
<12> Not convinced about that point.
<12> ", ".join(some_list)
<12> immutable strings...
<12> I find it lovely to think in and write Python , but some things are just plain weird :)
<7> larrywells: what little I have written does not endear me to it. I'll stick with Perl.
<6> ha ha what a discussion
<6> I think I will stick with PHP
<8> lol
<8> I use PHP and love it
<8> htough there are certainly plusses for other langauge
<8> I've never found anything PHP can't do too easily
<8> especialy the new object model
<8> and now we have perl regexp
<6> yea php 5.0
<8> though it's true to say that it does encourage bad code writers....
<12> What do you mean, "now"?
<12> PCRE's been in PHP since forever
<6> And you can always use Perl in sections with PHP
<12> Er, no?
<6> no?
<12> What do you mean, use Perl in sections with PHP?
<12> You can't mix and match the two in a single script...
<6> well there is a perl plug in for db connection, not sure plug in is the correct word
<12> I'm not sure I understand you
<6> I would need to look it up to give you more detail
<13> Hi all!
<13> I need help with Perl and Image::Magick. How do I retrieve the size of an image?
<13> Windrose!!!
<13> Windrose: what's up?
<7> Nothing much - working. With you?
<13> Windrose: also working. There's a program I need to convert from PHP to Perl.
<13> Which is why I'm asking how to retrieve the image size.
<13> There are other I::M operations I need to do.
<13> I wonder if there's a way to do it in GD.pm
<13> $width = $image->width - from http://search.cpan.org/~lds/GD-2.34/GD.pm - yep.
<14> critique please! http://casadev.com
<13> trumpetmic: no horiz scrollbar - that's nice.
<13> trumpetmic: took a while too load. Perhaps there are too many large images.
<13> trumpetmic: is it valid HTML/XHTML?
<13> trumpetmic: the HOME tab could use some padding
<13> trumpetmic: in Konqi 3.5.x I don't get a visual indication that the web hosting link is there.
<13> I hovered above it by accident.
<15> trumpetmic: Don't use a transitional DOCTYPE.
<15> And since you apparently want to support IE, it's pointless to use XHTML anyway.
<16> Is this valid html: <a name="foo" />
<16> I am not certain from the w3c documentation wether or not I can do that or if I have to use <a name="foo"></a>
<15> It's usually easier to use an ID, by the way-- it usually avoids the extra markup of the <a name="">
<15> And it's not valid HTML.
<17> Can anyone offer a plausible explanation as to why images on a remote website would not appear on one computer in both firefox and IE, yet would work fine on other computers?
<15> Proxy on that computer?
<15> And what website?
<17> this one apparently: http://www.itservicedesk.co.uk/partners/partners.asp
<15> And it's just this website on just that computer?
<17> I'm not entirely sure, but I think it might be several web sites, but not all images on each page
<18> i'm looking for an alternative to dreamweaver, can you give me some names please?
<18> nvu, xstandard, scite/emacs/vim, bravo.. some people gave me these names, can anybody reccomend one?
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